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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/petermobeter on 2024-08-22 16:42:39.

i was raised in the evangelical christian community. i mostly left that community becuz i disagreed with the philosophy and teachings it held. (like dueteronomy 22:5 for instance)

but it left me with a severe fear of death. or rather, a severe fear of the mental unawareness & oblivion of being dead. whenever i think about being unconscious for the rest of eternity, i feel like my stomach is falling a great distance.

but ive researched the topic of aliens & UFOs, and ufologists and abductees/experiencers constantly say that aliens are interested in humans' souls. which means: human souls exist!!!!! yay!!!!! i wont just fall asleep and never wake up!!!!! im gonna either go to heaven or get reincarnated!!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!!!

if i get reincarnated, i hope it's as a dog that gets a great home with loving owners. that wuld be nice. altho i wuld prefer to simply go to heaven.

what do u think? are u happy that souls apparently exist, according to ufologists & experiencers? or do u think its nonsense? leave a comment!

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/NewParadigmInstitute on 2024-08-22 16:22:49.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/BR4NFRY3 on 2024-08-22 16:19:42.

Elizondo offered the list with caveats: "As far as I know..." and "Only some presidents have been briefed by those involved on the basic facts about the situation; but they are not provided with all the details."

Presidents since 1947 NOT on Elizondo's list: Nixon, Ford, Clinton, W. Bush, Obama, Biden.

What can we learn from these two lists? What stands out when looking at the presidents who were informed vs. those who were not?

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/FunkleKnuck291 on 2024-08-22 14:00:01.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/TheUnexplainedETI on 2024-08-22 06:16:11.

Earlier I made post comparing the 4chan leak to the GAIA leak.

Here’s a link to both leaks -

GAIA

https://goldenageofgaia.com/2011/08/18/i-am-in-the-us-navy-space-command-and-i-have-been-to-elenin-ask-me-a-question/

4chan

https://imgur.com/a/4chan-whistleblower-NXjWQaN

My post was quick, I actually realize now that this may be something crazy and would like to break down why. Also, I realized a lot of people in these communities like to believe what they hear, not much investigating seems to be done.

DISCLAIMER: The part discussing Jesus and such on the GAIA leak is NOT from the leaker. The thread actually begins a little bit further down.

MY OPINION: I believe the GAIA leak is credible. I do not believe the 4chan leak is. These are my opinions, please do not attack me. I’m happy to engage in debate.

Here are the reasons why I came to my conclusion:

GAIA LEAKER - JOB TITLE: US NAVY SPACE COMMAND POSTED: 2011 CLAIM: Recon Mission to Elenin

My Takeaways:

  • Right off the bat, he makes the claim to work for US Navy Space command. This was posted in 2011. In 2019, Space force was created. This will remain relevant later on as well.
  • The first few responses, both the person asking the question and the leaker responded cryptic. Code word stuff, not going to look into it.
  • Right after his break, a NASA question was asked. He essentially makes a claim that NASA is low budget. Proceeds to claim Air Force and Navy maintain the real space programs.

His confidence in calling NASA low budget and not in the know suggests he’s not worried about information that could discredit him. We’ve recently seen NASA to be just that, with companies like spaceX dominating them. We’ve also never heard of UFO’s being in NASA’s domain, simply put, not much has revolved around NASA.

Furthermore, he states the real space programs are in the Navy and air force’s domain. Fast forward 8 years later, there is now a Space Force, serving as 6th branch of the military.

  • The next couple of questions are more cryptic, as in I’m not sure what’s being said. Not going to look into those
  • “go look up e class asteroids. also look up the ESA’s rosetta mission to steins. where magically the high res cameras just happened to fail. and there is your answer. sorry i can’t be more direct. but this one is a bit more operational and is talking. someone savvy will be able to ‘hear’ it pretty soon. there will be no denying that history isn’t what we’ve been told. but much more interesting. no doom. just something pretty neat coming. i have said enough.”

The leaker begins to point us to places, make claims. The reason I point this out is because these aren’t your everyday average claims made that the entire world knows. It’s easy for people to shine light on a common conspiracy using their job title in government, it’s interesting when we’re pointed directions we haven’t heard of. We also get a glimpse that he knows about his filed and can discuss it beyond just one thing.

He also proceeds to make the claim about “history isn’t what we’ve been told”. This is the claim I have been making since my first Reddit post. It’s the most hidden in plain view secret of all time.

  • “basically that means its highly reflective, metallic”

His response to the E class astroid definition. He was able to dumb it down in one sentence, suggesting he has knowledge in his field which is important.

  • Do you fly your vehicles fairly low at night and change direction at nano second speed?

“not me. my CO is a hard ass. but i’ve heard stories, some funny ones. if i did it i’d probably be court martialed”

^ He specially used the term court martialed. Further suggesting he is military

  • This next one is one of my favorite. This makes so much sense especially in today’s climate.

op what can you tell us about the program besides the fact that you went to elenin?

“that they know they gotta tell everyone soon, because the gap between what we have and what we admit is increasing to a point that they can’t keep it all a secret forever. think 50 lightyears for a one or two day trip is easy. listen to what ben rich said. its all coming out soon or else i wouldn’t be posting. we live in the most interesting times ever. and the next 5 years will be the most amazing starting with this year. the the old farts running things realize this and hate change, but its inevitable. thanks for participating guys. i’ll check back later tonight.”

Looking back from when this posted and everything that’s gone on since. I’m starting to think we are witnessing disclosure happen for this exact reason. I never actually thought of this until this perspective, this makes the most plausible sense. He then said the next. 5 years we would begin to hear more and more, and that’s EXACTLY what has happened. Imagine someone said in 5 years the government will admit to UFO’s being real? That’s too precise. And that’s exactly what happened.

  • “actually its easier than flying a jet. most of it is automated.”

He said this in confidence, suggesting nothing to discredit, inferring he knows this is true.

And behold, recent revelations have suggested exactly the above. All automated

  • “one thing that I must point out that you just don’t get from watching on a tv is the absolute beauty out there.the earth and other planets are simply magnificent and awe inspiring”

He went out of his way to mention his admiration for our universe. This wasn’t necessary, he does it more than once. This is what you see from people in a field where they are actually in and love what they do. We commonly hear similar things from people we believe be authentic, ie bob lazars admiration for the technology.

He continues with just his sheer awe for our universe.

  • OP have you or your fellow officers traveled to Niburu/Planet X? If can say, will it come near to earth in a year or two?

“i have never heard anything about nibiru.”

When asked about something like this, he didn’t respond with something like “it’s not in my field” or act mysterious. Leakers tend to answer about unknown conspiracies in mystery. He simply said I don’t know anything about it

  • Did you go to flight school in Corpus Christi or Pensacola?

“i understand your curiosity. i don’t want to talk about personal stuff though.”

I was just asking because I want to be a Navy Pilot and have been looking it up online. From what I understand if I join and pass basic I would probably go to Pensacola. Which is fine with me.

“The way I see it if you can land a plane on an Air Craft Carrier, then you are one of the best pilots in the world. you are 100% correct. carrier landings are insane. good luck kid”

Instead of the casual response “I can’t talk about it”, he truly gave a mature response here. This response is one you would expect from someone in their field to say. A larper would not respond like this.

  • His next claim is they’ve been out 250 Light years and further.

Let’s think about how plausible this is. Assuming what we know about UFO’s is true, then this is the easiest statement to validate right? We have had recovered craft forever. If we reverse engineered it, which that’s what we think has happened, then we seem to forget this is easy. I’m actually surprised this isn’t talked about more. This is absolutely fascinating

  • “ok i’m not privy to all of this, but obviously from working in this field i will tell you what I have seen. yes and yes. some other guys are up there, the usual suspects, but so far we see they are only sporting conventional or just a bit more advanced than conventional NASA type tech. they mainly stay in L.E.O. and don’t cause much interference with our operations. they are just a nuisance at this time”

I like this one. He said he’s not sure about the question, but instead of the typical answer you see others give. He is able to provide his first hand knowledge best he can. Something larpers never try and can do. Then uses terms like “LEO”. Further suggesting he knows about his field.

  • “as far as elenin, i just hope we have some ham radio operators out there who can listen to to it. we need to learn about ourselves and our heritage. elenin may help with this.”

Once again, just the way he is able to answer these questions. It’s hard to wrap your head around.

  • “you’d have to ask an astronomer. i’d guess its too small to be any sort of visual spectacle UNLESS, it becomes active that way also. that would be amazing. anything is possible.”

He doesn’t differ. He answers best to his ability. But wait there’s more

Elenin became visually spectacle before “disintegrating”.

  • “yes zpe is real. space is actually more energetic than matter. the trick is figuring out how to get it because there is very little to no energy gradient. but they have figured it out long ago.”

First he uses terms like ZPE. Further suggesting he has knowledge.

But This one sealed the deal for me. To say space is more energetic than matter is not the common response non the less back then. This has slowly been turning out to be true as we learn more.

  • OFF TOPIC

“if it is destroyed, that would be a travesty. there are some out there who could do this. i just hope whoever is making the crop circles is wrong about this one. elenin has been given a lot of doom and gloom press”

Person asked question about crop circles. Essentially suggesting that crop circles are made as a signal that something is going to happen. I personally never tho...


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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/PositiveSong2293 on 2024-08-22 04:35:01.

Original Title: It seems that the UFO community is finally paying more attention now after Lue Elizondo spoke, but decades ago, a doctor had already shown the truth to the world: Physical evidence: removals and analyses of alien implants by Dr. Roger Leir.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/pokezillaking on 2024-08-22 03:36:42.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/JosephBrown2000 on 2024-08-22 02:40:51.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Seekertwentyfifty on 2024-08-22 01:56:07.

I’ve listened to the audio book once and certain chapters 2-3 times. Here are some of my initial notes/takeaways. What are some observations from others who’ve read it?

  1. Overall I thought it was a substantive account of his personal experience w the phenomenon. Although clearly there was information missing and some of the more profound revelations Lue could offer were left out. Meaning i could tell it was edited and censored quite a bit. I would summarize it as concrete confirmation of what’s been reported and speculated on for quite some time. He is crystal clear on the fact that craft and bodies have been recovered.
  2. Chapter 2 on the Colares incident was new to me. The incident sounded a little disturbing to me.
  3. Lue is a an honest patriot and I believe most if not all of what he’s saying. He’s also a little prone to politics and personal pettiness which seem a little much at points. Could have done without some of the ‘did me wrong’ rhetoric.
  4. Notably absent were some insights on the woo aspects of the phenomenon. The NHI’s ability to manipulate human thought and perception, dark motivations, etc. could’ve used further exploration. I suspect these topic venture into the ‘indegestible’ and were left out for that reason among others.
  5. I particularly enjoyed Chapter 16 which addressed some of the effects experiencers have reported. Meaning there were satisfying explanations for things like Missing time, physical ailments, colored lights, incredible capabilities of the craft, etc. His explanations cleared up a few things for me.
  6. His description of his career in Washington shows how poorly the government has handled the subject. To me it’s further evidence that the ‘big conspiracy’ of secrecy is a little misguided. What makes better sense is that we’re seeing evidence of incompetent and petty divided groups of bureaucratic fiefdoms, focused on covering their own asses.
  7. One of the main messages in the book is that the NHI behavior looks remarkably like ‘preparation for battlefield’. Recon, intel gathering, etc. This narrative lost credibility for me when he commented that it looks as though they’ve been doing ‘prep for battlefield’ for the last 2000 years or more. Really, Lue?!? Any sense you might be a little biased given your background? I suppose it’s possible but it doesn’t make sense to me that this vastly superior intelligence would need to put that much thought and effort into it. I suspect they could wipe us the fuck out at any time, with no preparation, before breakfast if they so desired.
  8. Not much mention of the fact that some of this NHI appears very similar to the intelligence that’s been dogging humanity since the beginning. Fairies, gnomes, Bigfoot, vampires, flaming shields, flying chariots, etc. But If that turned out to be the case, would the public then be less inclined to meet this situation with a ‘more bigger guns’ approach? It would certainly not for the narrative that Lue and his colleagues are promoting. I think better acknowledgement of this dynamic from Lue would demonstrate greater self awareness and wisdom.

I have a lot more to add but just wanted to start the discussion and hear some initial impressions of other. What are some of your initial take aways?

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/TheUnexplainedETI on 2024-08-22 01:06:50.

As many of you may know, there was a 4chan leak about a mothership UFO making craft to spec out of Bermuda.

My personal opinion on that is it’s fake. Reading Inbetween the lines, it was just a bunch of different stories compiled in one. Nothing to me suggested he was in intelligence. The plot of his story reminded me of the movie pacific rim.

The other reason I didn’t believe it was because I had seen the same format somewhere before with a different story.

Well, I was able to finally track down the other one and thought I’d share it. This one actually blows my mind. I figured I’d share it with everyone.

https://goldenageofgaia.com/2011/08/18/i-am-in-the-us-navy-space-command-and-i-have-been-to-elenin-ask-me-a-question/

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/pokezillaking on 2024-08-22 00:13:04.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Pure-Contact7322 on 2024-08-21 17:17:33.

Original Title: Serious: 7 years ago Dr. Frank Drake did an Ama here on Reddit. In one of his answers he shared that Aliens could build spaceships here on earth without traveling but sending information to duplicate their vehicles. This resonates with what Elizondo said about the Ocean Ufo base.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/collinalexbell on 2024-08-21 23:40:33.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Eric_Licausi777 on 2024-08-21 22:03:46.

In my personal opinion I believe that the reason why true disclosure has been described as being catastrophic or “too much to handle” for the public by some is because all current religions originated from communications or intervention by extraterrestrial or extra-dimensional intelligence. Leading to previous humans to form religions and worship these entities out of lack of understanding. Leading to the idea that true disclosure would harm society and cause chaos because the beliefs and control religion has on the public would go through a schism and cause a new age of religious understanding that past religious stories formulated over the lack of understanding of what so called Gods were. I feel that this topic would rather benefit society and religious mindsets by bringing a new age of conscious understanding and even raise our intelligence by asking the question “who really were the gods? Why did they do what they did? And have religious texts which speak of otherworldly powers coming from God like entities just aliens with more advanced technology?” Which is the last thing monopolistic religious orders would want, for us to question their means of controlling us by questioning divine right.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Enrico_Polazzo on 2024-08-21 21:41:14.

Just started chapter 4 of Luis’ new book. I listened to whatever morning show interview he did and he mentioned king tuts tomb and not to spoil if anyone’s still working their way through season 3 of attack on titan but there was a similar twist. Also finishing up Tokyo ghoul and I think there’s also some relevant stuff. Anyone have a good follow up anime?

I think ancient civ with new tech plot twist could happen in whatever simulation (I/we??) are living in. Pss and another spoiler catastrophic disclosure is totally the rumbling..

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/fubu2 on 2024-08-21 20:53:23.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/TheGoodTroubleShow on 2024-08-21 20:38:36.

Original Title: TODAY: 6pm PST on #TGTS. Join our roundtable show as we discuss Lue Elizondo's new book on #UAPs / #UFOs, Imminent. Joining us: Dr. Bob McGwier, Dr. Keith Taylor, Daniel Elizondo, & Lynda Thompson.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/MorganWhile on 2024-08-21 20:22:51.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Johanharry74 on 2024-08-21 20:20:24.

I continue the Nordic humanoid encounter series with four new fascinating cases from Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Norway....

The farting aliens.

Raklev in Denmark, August 1956

This report has some funny elements and is a little unusual and was only published some years ago by the witness Arne‑Harder Jørgensen. He held on to it, because it would have strained his credibility in the labor market — in the military and later in the postal service.

The story takes place when Arne‑Harder was a 10 year old boy in the village of Raklev on Zealand in Denmark. One evening in August 1956 at approx. 8 pm he was playing “cowboys and indians” with other children and he hid in a pit he had dug in a hedge to the neighbour's yard. As he lay there waiting, he suddenly heard some strangers speaking "like Japanese”, he thought is sounded like. He looked up and saw some small persons 7-10 meters (20-30 feet) away, eating rasberries from the bushes in the neighbour’s garden, while they farted and laughed out loudly like little boys. Armed with his air pistol, he snuck up on them, but was hit by a toxic stench of poop and chemicals.

The "poison gas" came from three small, gray beings. Since this was Scandinavia in the summer, it was not very dark outside at 8 pm, so he could see them quite clearly. They were 120 cm (4 feet) tall with enormously large heads, small mouths, two small holes for the nose and large, round, red or purple eyes. They all looked alike like “three drops of water”. The three also had tight fitting clothes and some big oversized shoes on their feet, like “moon boots”.

Rather funny picture of the encounter, for a quite amusing story. The aliens were farting and laughing while they were eating berries in the garden. (artistic impression)

At the sight of him, the beings throw away the rasberries. Arne‑Harder Jørgensen wanted to flee back down into his pit, but was paralyzed and turned towards the aliens. Two of them immediately ran away towards the apple orchard, while the third came closer and studied him and not least his air pistol. The boy felt that he was both photographed and X-rayed by the creature’s strange eyes.

Finally the little gray man ran after the others. Arne-Harder remained motionless until a spaceship emerged behind a nearby ridge and sped upwards towards the sky at very high speed. This broke the “spell”, and he ran back to the other kids, who hadn't noticed anything unusual.

First thing the next morning, he and three other children went up to the old gravel pit, which was located behind the ridge, and here they found four holes, which they assumed were from the landing gear of the craft. They also found a strange substance in the middle between the holes. This lump they peeled apart and hammered it down into a couple of the holes, which they covered with stone and sand. The aliens large, clumsy "moon boots" had also left traces both in the gravel pit and in the nearby pastures. The neighbour also said that a flower stand and three chickens were missing. The children found the stand in the gravel pit. But the birds were gone - along with the aliens. Also when Arne-Harder shot his air pistol a few days later, it broke into pieces, even though it was almost new.

This story has some childish and far fetched elements. Farting and laughing aliens eating berries? Really? Could this just be a kid’s fantasy story? Maybe, maybe not. And the other children who also saw the traces in the gravel pit, were never found or interviewed. Though the witness experienced this as a child, he waited until his retirement to tell the story, to not jeopardize his career. And the man was an officer in the military for a long time. That gives him some credibility. Or does it? Nothing is of course certain…

Source: SUFOI

The Kinnula Ufonaut.

Kinnula in the middle of Finland, February 2-5 1971

On February 2, 1971, at approximately 8 pm, two Finnish women - Sinikka Kuittinen and one Mrs. Manninen - were driving from Kuusamo towards Oulu in a region near Kiiminki, when they saw a strange light behind their car, on the right side of the road.

After a few moments, this mysterious light slipped over the vehicle and began to pace the car on the left side of the road. Sinikka, who was driving the vehicle, claimed that as the UFO passed overhead her ears began to mysteriously “plug up.” When the pair arrived at a nearby field, the light abruptly disappeared. This is when Kuittinen and Manninen both claimed to have caught a glimpse of the unbelievable. The women later insisted that they had seen a peculiar, helmeted creature that stood approximately 1 m (3-feet) tall. They both agreed that this strange being was clad in a greenish-brown suit and crossed the road in front of them utilizing a series of small jumps.

The two women in the car saw a small being in a green "space suit" crossing the road in front of them. (Source: Rob Morphy - American monsters)

This odd being swiftly disappeared on the far side of the road, which, the women confirmed, was a desolate area with no buildings or houses. Kuittinen, whose fear far outweighed her curiosity, hit the gas and sped directly toward the city of Oulu. Neither woman seemed interested in investigating the matter any further. As fascinating as this incident was, this would not be the last, nor the most frightening encounter that people would have with this enigmatic creature.

The incident that made this ostensibly alien being famous occurred on the snowy, overcast afternoon of February 5, 1971. On this day two lumberjacks, 21-year-old Petter Aliranta and 18-year-old Esko Juhani Sneck, had a close encounter that would haunt them for the remainder of their days. The fantastic event began at approximately 3:00 pm when the young duo, who had spent the morning cutting down trees in the forests near the village of Kangaskyla in Kinnula, Finland, decided to call it a day because the overcast conditions were making it too dark to continue.

According to their account, Aliranta had just turned off his chainsaw, when he suddenly noticed an odd metallic object hovering at tree-top level. He claimed that it was shaped like “two saucers” on top of each other and was about 5 m (15 feet) in diameter. At the bottom of the vehicle, there were four thin landing legs with rounded bases, which he estimated to be more than 2 m (6 feet) long. If the craft made any sound it was no doubt overwhelmed by the continued roaring of Sneck’s chainsaw. Aliranta continued to watch as a circular portal opened at the base of the slowly descending ship. Within moments, the object landed in a small clearing between the trees, less than 15 m (45 feet) away from the awestruck lumberjack and his still oblivious comrade. Aliranta stared in amazement as a weird, green-garbed entity slowly descended through the open portal from the bowels of the craft. He later described this unusual entity as being less than 1 m (3 feet) in height and with its entire body covered in a green, one-piece suit. On the front of the head was a faceplate that was described as being akin to that of a scuba diver.

Although the creature had arms and legs, the suit gave no indication of hands or fingers. The apparent structure of this suit seems to be similar to a hazmat suit or the deep sea suits divers wear to protect them from the pressure of the oceans most severe depths. Perhaps this alien was wearing something similar as the pressure of Earth’s surface may be harmful to creatures like itself. While this is pure speculation, there is still the possibility that it is true. The bizarre “Ufonaut” seemed to defy gravity as it floated down the 2 m (6 feet) to the snow-covered ground below the ship. It was then, much to Aliranta’s alarm, this creature began to approach him. Much to the lumberjack’s surprise, the being did not sink into the snow but continued toward him with short, stiff, gliding movements akin to that of an astronaut skipping on the moon. Aliranta described the motion as almost robotic, but perhaps its movement was just inhibited by the suit it was wearing. At that moment, Aliranta, who was understandably terrified, started his chainsaw. Sneck — who was so focused on cutting branches off a felled tree he had not noticed the anomalous aircraft or its occupant, turned at the roar of the chainsaw and saw the shocked expression on his friend’s face as well as the tiny, alien oddity that was galloping toward them.

The UFO and the Ufonaut (Source: Thinkaboutits)

The lumberjack, with what must be accredited to a jolt of youthful bravery, advanced upon the humanoid as Sneck watched dumbfounded. Aliranta and the encroaching alien were less than 10 m (30 feet) apart when the entity abruptly turned and started back towards his craft with the same looping gait. This retreat further emboldened Aliranta who now ran in pursuit of the “little green man.” When he got closer to the UFO, Aliranta claimed to have noticed other vaguely humanoid figures through three “windows” on the topside of the vehicle. When the alien was just 3 m (9 feet) away from the craft, it levitated into the ai...


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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/secretlyrobotman on 2024-08-21 20:13:33.

Currently reading through Lue’s book, got interested in this topic when DG came out. And I have to say, as enraging as it is all of this has been hidden. It’s even more mind boggling these groups have been able to literally gate keep reality from us for over 70 years. I don’t have much to add, just been thinking on that a lot. And if it is all real which I do believe it is personally, it’s just such a lack of humanity when it comes to how they’ve handled this. Misinformation, lying, threats, even murder possibly, and so on and so on. It’s just really hard to wrap your mind around a small group, a small population of earth being able to keep something so profoundly special from humanity. That would most likely, change us all for the better.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Temporary_Moment_ on 2024-08-21 19:59:44.

https://www.biblioteca pleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_krllpapers.htm#menu

delete 2 spaces to get the full link working

Edit : the papers came out in 1988 not 2000 !

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/RhinoG91 on 2024-08-21 19:46:00.

Just wondering what exactly is the definition of non-human Intelligence?

Dogs are intelligent, do they qualify? What about monkeys, horses, elephants, dolphins?

Octopi? crows?

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/AdiDassler on 2024-08-21 17:09:50.

Bascially the title.

So much fuss over stuff that turned out to be things "he can't openly talk about"? Are the hearings still going? Is there still stuff in the works or was this just some big pile of nothing?

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