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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/somethingworse on 2024-07-20 01:57:07.

I have always been very ambivalent on this alien stuff, growing up I was an atheist but I loved reading about aliens. I became good friends with a creationist, she said to me that she doesn't care whether evolution is true because it doesn't change anything about her life- this really changed me, because it was like, if it doesn't effect us now what does it matter. Can anyone explain to me why it matters if there was ancient aliens?

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Mouthshitter on 2024-07-20 00:57:13.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/DragonfruitOdd1989 on 2024-07-20 00:21:56.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Codega-DreamWalker on 2024-07-19 23:05:22.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Outrageous-Pin4156 on 2024-07-19 21:37:35.

Does anyone have any information on specifically shadow aliens? I have recently had an experience that I would like to dive deeper into and seem only to be finding information on sleep paralysis, corner of your eye shadow man, and dark watchers (featureless face meaning no eyes).

I search "shadow alien glitch" and I get a low quantity of images. Because of this, I am inclined to think that my experience is rather unique or covered up using other conspiracies as a way to information-wash the internet about them. I don't want information about Miami... I want maybe a resource on this species.

When they move it looks like their limbs glitch.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Pleasant-Lie-9053 on 2024-07-19 21:23:37.

Engage with mankind?

If human find other intelligent population in other places, we would want to communicate with them, leaders, representatives. Such a huge discovery for mankind and the other spiece, mankind will try to sign some agreements with them for peace and development.

But if David Grush is right, nhi are here, why the dead silence, did nhi know there are other spieces in the universe too besides mankind and nhis? So they r not that excited?

Did any insiders really know where nhi came from and what is their motive? Or still in the dark after so many dedades, even that is just split second in the universe time

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Holiday-Two-2834 on 2024-07-19 18:26:27.

What is the difference between these two? could someone explain

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/pambimbo on 2024-07-19 14:46:15.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/MachineHeart on 2024-07-19 13:55:39.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Dmans99 on 2024-07-19 07:56:27.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/nirvanatheory on 2024-07-19 07:48:32.

Like the saying goes “I want to believe.”

Aliens could definitely exist and my own logic tells me that it’s foolish to imagine that throughout the entire universe we are the only planet with life. Statistics is a well proven and critically essential component of scientific research. Everything we know to be scientifically proven, testable and reliable for extrapolating data to form predictions is due to the unwavering reliability of our mathematical models.

We take a lot of things for granted now but there have a been many times that discoveries are made only after predictions and extrapolations of mathematical models. Neptune was predicted due to gravitational irregularities that didn’t agree with mathematical models and validated those predictions when it was discovered a few years later. Black holes were not directly predicted in Einstein’s 1915 General Theory of Relativity but predicted in 1916 when Schwarzschild extrapolated those equations to extremes, and were first confirmed 48 years later. Neutrinos were predicted as a missing piece in the standard model and confirmed 26 years later.

The models are so powerful that mechanisms to address gaps can be modeled in the theories and used to form predictions. The Higgs mechanism was first predicted in the 60’s and wasn’t confirmed until about 50 years later.

I get so frustrated with disclosure because we don’t have anything concrete. The Drake equation has too many unknown variables to make any solid predictions. There aren’t any scientific experiments we can use to test the universe for alien life.

I do know for a fact that life developed on one planet so the number of planets that can allow for the evolution of intelligent life is non-zero. I know that it’s been confirmed that exoplanets are abundant with predictions that most stars have at least 1 exoplanet orbiting. With between 40-80 billion sun like stars in our galaxy and 100-200 billion galaxies(some predict up to 2 trillion), and the knowledge that life is possible, I don’t see how anybody can say alien life is impossible or even that it’s improbable.

The only problem is that there isn’t any proof. I listen to many credible people talk about their experiences. I want to believe them because I want to believe that we are not alone in the universe.

There could be a worldwide cover up. These whistleblowers could be telling the truth. Some of these conspiracy theories could be true. The government could have extraterrestrial technology that they hide from the public.

The speculation is fine and the theories could help with discovery. I just wanted remind people to that that we don’t actually know. Nothing is confirmed. Maybe it’s because evidence is being hidden and maybe it’s because it doesn’t actually exist.

Make them show us.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Holiday-Two-2834 on 2024-07-19 06:59:52.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/fuckswithboats on 2024-07-19 04:44:03.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Ingenuity123 on 2024-07-19 02:46:56.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Dmans99 on 2024-07-18 22:18:42.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/DragonfruitOdd1989 on 2024-07-18 21:46:45.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/MadOblivion on 2024-07-18 20:35:33.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Remarkable_Desk_7881 on 2024-07-18 20:05:36.

Out of everything alien, what's the top reason you believe in them? What % confident are you they exist?

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Familiar_Ad_4885 on 2024-07-18 20:04:11.

I honestly think they already found alien life back in 90's with that meteorite. But they panicked and was afraid of the world's reaction. Seeing how things have evolved since then and many things that we thought could never happen like covid and a war in Europe, they should just come clean and say yes there is life on Mars even if it's just a bacteria size. It could help with a change of the scientific community to take UFO sightings more seriously.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/NewParadigmInstitute on 2024-07-18 19:49:44.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/DigitalDavid94 on 2024-07-18 18:42:31.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Mort-Mort on 2024-07-18 18:41:17.

Was the crash at Roswell, 1947, the ultimate double bluff?

Well in an interview with a magazine in 2014, Joe McMoneagle made a pretty interesting comment on Roswell being a distraction. I'm not here to convince you remote viewing is real, I was curious about what he said about the "true" crash site, so I decided to do a bit of digging.

Joe McMoneagle is labelled as "remote viewer #001" in the government remote viewing program, here's a quick background on him:

Joe McMoneagle, internationally renowned as a master remote viewer and author of four books on remote viewing has 47 years of professional and scientific expertise in research and development within numerous multi-level technical intelligence collection systems and in the field of the paranormal and the social sciences. He was an R&D consultant to SRI-International and Science Applications International Corporation, Inc. where he participated in protocol design, statistical information collection, evaluations, thousands of remote viewing trials in support of both experimental research as well as active intelligence operations for what is now known as Project STARGATE.

But firstly, here is what he said in regards to Roswell:

https://nexusmagazine.com/product/remote-viewing-ancient-aliens-on-mars/?v=79cba1185463

Question (interviewer):

Have you ever remote-viewed the alleged crash near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947? If so, what did you find?

Answer (Joe):

Yes, I have remote-viewed the alleged crash near Roswell. But not while I was involved in the Star Gate program.

I do not believe it ever happened. It is my belief that the real crash was a 2-part crash that took place at Socorro, New Mexico approximate 170 miles (~274 kilometers) west-northwest of Roswell. It is actually almost due west, just south of Albuquerque and just north of Truthor-Consequences. There was a crash there that is almost never referred to. If someone brings up the crash at Socorro, however, almost without exception Roswell becomes the front-page news. It is my belief that they use Roswell as a distraction to draw people away from the crash site at Socorro which I believe is the more important crash site.

There is still a great deal of material that can be found at and around the Socorro crash site while there is none to be found near Roswell. Roswell is a cover of distraction. The materials found surrounding the Socorro site are well established as being from a very high intensity and very hot impact. The heat created at Socorro probably exceeded 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit (~982 degrees Celsius) in places immediately following the vehicle crash.

It is also my belief that there were at least 2 crashes at the Socorro site which occurred exactly 20 years apart almost to the minute. There are reasons for this as well. The Socorro site represents an ingress-egress point into and out of our time. Space locale, a specific requirement attached to their modality of star-to-star travel.

So, according to Joe, Roswell was the distraction and the real site is at Socorro, along with it being visited 20 years later on. So, natural question would be, is this true?

Well he's right about it never being referred to because in my short time digging I could only find one piece on it:

https://mountainmail.blogspot.com/2010/07/something-happened-on-san-agustin.html

But what about the other UFO crash in 1947, the one on the San Agustin Plains?

The story goes this way: at the very same time as the Roswell crash on July 3, 1947 something most peculiar may have happened somewhere on the San Agustin Plains.

The players in this drama are:

• Barney Barnett - resident of Socorro who worked for the Soil Conservation Service. Barnett, who died around 1969, was very well thought of and respected as a model of probity by all who knew him, many still living in this vicinity.

• Harold Baca, neighbor and friend of Barney Barnett and father of the

proprietor of Harold’s Store on South California Street in Socorro.

• Gerald Anderson, five years old in 1947, has an amazingly perfect recollection of the happenings in early July, 1947.

• Six or so archeology students from (maybe?) the University of Pennsylvania. Never identified and never located.

• Air Force personnel, identified only as a disagreeable red-haired officer and a black soldier.

Nothing at all was heard about any odd events on the Plains for many years. Fast forward two decades. Around 1967 or 1968 when he was very ill with cancer of the mouth and throat, Barney Barnett told Harold Baca that his cancer was caused by the flying saucer he saw on the San Agustin Plains. “Where?” a startled Baca asked Barnett, who replied, “The San Agustin Plains out past Magdalena. There was three little guys and I leaned down to look at them and I got some of that radiation.”

The Roswell Incident written by Charles Berlitz and William Moore includes an interesting account of Barnett’s encounter on pages 57 to 63 in which Barnett is supposed to have told several people about it in 1950.

According to the book, on or about July 3rd, Barnett was out working near Magdalena and came across “a large metallic object” with some not-exactly-human dead bodies around it. He described the bodies as having large round hairless heads with small eyes. Also viewing the remains were some archeology students from the University of Pennsylvania or the U. of Michigan. All were escorted away by Air Force personnel and cautioned strongly not to say anything about what they saw.

Enter Gerald Anderson who came forward in 1990 after viewing a segment of Unsolved Mysteries telling about the San Agustin Plains crash. Gerald Anderson was five years old in 1947 and claims to have been with his father, his uncle, his cousin and his brother on a summer morning when they came across “a silver object stuck in the ground at a weird angle.” Later in 1990 Gerald picked out a small hill on Dave Farr’s land east of Horse Springs and declared it the place. He remembered the archeology students and Barney Barnett and being chased away by the Air Force in the person of a nasty red-haired officer and a black soldier. He also reported that two of the four aliens were alive. Gerald Anderson passed a polygraph test in 1991 but his testimony is understandably disputed by some UFO experts. Note that Barney Barnett makes no mention of the Anderson family’s presence.

Crash At Corona by Stanton Friedman and Don Berliner, written in 1992, covers Anderson’s account on pages 87-97 and 105-108.

Stanton Friedman has done some speedy research on the incident at Horse Springs, as have several other UFO experts. But the lengthiest research, as yet unpublished, has been done by Victor Golubic.

Victor and I spoke with several people who resided in Horse Springs in 1947 and none remembered anything unusual that summer.

Several remembered a plane crash by the Armijos’ Old Horse Springs store sometime around 1945. No one could pinpoint the exact year, but one had a distinct memory of going to see the crashed plane. “It was a military plane and the pilot was dead,” said one resident of Horse Springs.

That site (Horse Springs), when Victor and I looked at it, yielded nothing, but 50 years wipe away a lot.

The Air Force was a presence in Catron County during the late forties, staffing what they said was a radar tower on the road to the Marvin Ake ranch. People remember seeing Air Force vehicles on the roads, but no one we spoke to spotted one carrying bodies of the extra-terrestrial kind.

From Quemado to Reserve to Datil and Socorro, in person and by telephone, Victor interviewed people who had lived in these here parts during those years and found nothing really conclusive regarding the San Agustin Plains UFO crash.

We heard many fascinating tales handed down over the years, but no first-hand knowledge.

A Quemado resident recalls a visitor in 1946 (a year before the famous crash) who said, “I just stopped in Magdalena and there was a thing from space. There’s people in it and they tell me one of ‘ems still alive.”

Another Quemado resident knew a man from Mangus who saw a shiny thing in the mountains one summer in the late forties.

A few Aragon residents recall hearing about the incident. “Just that there was tracks,” said one. And from another, “There were strange people. They were moving. It looked like a plate.” They admitted that this was hearsay, which they did not necessarily subscribe to.

Most remembered first hearing about the UFO crash in the 1980s when the investigators started appearing in Catron and Socorro counties. There must be people out there who saw or heard about something in the fifties or before. But where are they?

Instead of answers, there are questions.

Did Barney Barnett, whose Soil Conservation work usually took him west from Socorro, go east that day and come across the Roswell UFO crash?

Could the crash that Barnett saw be the main part of the crash that also left pieces at Corona?

Did the crash occur on San Agustin Plains but not near Horse Springs? This is the theory I prefer. Remember, **Harold Baca quotes Barney Barnett as saying, “out past Mag...


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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/BuletinTerlambat on 2024-07-18 17:47:27.
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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/the_astraltramp on 2024-07-18 14:50:34.

a list for reading

r/TheMysterySchool

In my eyes, this is the most relevant and useful information any truth seeker could ever ask for.

This is what the folk who actually know what is going on in Ufology and Esoterics spend their time reading.

It can and will, if you let it, change your life.

I have read and benefitted mentally and physically from each entry on the list.

The order has been chosen in thought of each entry leading into the subsequent entry allowing the reader to become aware of patterns of human behaviour that spans centuries that one may call “Magick”.

Follow this list, be patient and you will be rewarded.

Find out what is going on...

————————————————————————————- Phase 1: Pop Culture Perforations ——————————————————————————————————-

Sekret Machines: Chasing Shadows by Aj Hartley

UFO’s: Pilots On Record by Leslie Kean

The Day After Roswell by Phillip Corso

Morning of the Magicians by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier

Unholy Alliance by Peter Levenda

Sekret Machines: Gods by Peter Levenda

————————————————————————————- Phase 2: Filling In The Gaps ——————————————————————————————————-

Forbidden Science Vol 1 and Vol 2 by Jacques Vallee

The Flying Saucers Have Landed by Desmond Leslie

Sinister Forces Vol 1 by Peter Levenda

Cosmic Trigger Vol 1 by Robert Anton Wilson

Magick Without Tears by Aleister Crowley

John Dee and The Empire Of Angels by Jason Louv

Pop Magick by Grant Morrison

Communion by Whitley Streiber

Who Built The Moon? by Alan Butler

Liber Null by Peter Carrol

Journeys Out Of The Body by Robert Monroe

Sekret Machines: A Fire Within by AJ Hartley

Sekret Machines: Man by Peter Levenda

————————————————————————————- Phase 3: A Deep Dive ——————————————————————————————————-

The Necronomicon by Simon

Sinister Forces Vol 2 by Peter Levenda

The Bardo Thodol by Timothy Leary

Isis Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine by Helena Blavatsky

Star Guests by William Dudley Pelley

Other Tounges, Other Flesh by George Hunt Williamson

The Sacred Mushroom by Andrija Puharich

Cosmic Trigger Vol 2 by Robert Anton Wilson

The Confessions of Aleister Crowley by Kenneth Grant

Sinister Forces Vol 3 by Peter Levenda

Ciphers of the UFOnaughts by Alan Greenwood

The Magical Revival and the Subsequent entires to the Typhonian Trilogies by Kenneth Grant

Cult of the Black Cube by Arthur Moros

The Matrix Series by Valdemar Valerian

Forbidden Science 3 and 4 by Jacques Vallee

A Cloud Upon The Sanctuary by Karl von Eckartshausen

Advanced Magick For Beginners and Living Thelema by Alan Chapman and David Shoemaker

————————————————————————————- Phase 4: Looking Forward ——————————————————————————————————-

Continue Active DayDreaming, Lucid Dreaming and Dream Journaling and Trancendental Meditation Work.

Study Apocryphal Biblical Works.

Chronicle Schisms and Blinds of the Fraternal Organisations.

Decipher The Red Book, The Black Books, and VALIS.

Study Merkaba and Hekalot Literature as well as Kabbalah in General.

Follow the Equinox.

Uncover nature of GWB.

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The original post: /r/aliens by /u/Seekertwentyfifty on 2024-07-18 12:29:12.

What if there’s something greater at work here which we don’t understand? What if disclosure for the sake of satisfying our intense curiosity turns out to be, not in our best interest? But what if we got the disclosure we wanted and it turned out to be part of a big, nefarious ruse, and it wasn’t what we thought it was going to be? Maybe it’s a good time to reconsider Lue’s advice on disclosure which was to look inwardly to find the quickest path to disclosure.

I know some will reject this possibility as another attempt to continue the secrecy. But please consider the possibility that in demanding disclosure, you may be demanding they open Pandora’s Box. What if, as DeLonge suggests, disclosure could allow this intelligence to manifest in our reality on a larger scale. Food for thought (pun intended).

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/qTorJDCZ14

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