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Rules

  1. Any drama must be posted as an observer, you cannot post drama that you are involved with.
  2. When posting screenshots of drama, you must obscure the identity of all the participants.
  3. The poster must have a credible post and comment history before submitting a piece of history. This is to avoid sock-puppetry and witch hunts.

The usual instance-wide rules also apply.


Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse

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Since the original is deleted, here is the old glorious lore. 💩

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Nicole has died...? (downonthestreet.eu)
submitted 5 days ago by [email protected] to c/fediverselore
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cross-posted from: https://hackertalks.com/post/8713785

The instances being used are

  • lemmy.doesnotexist.club
  • chinese.lol

Here is an example of the coordinated downvoting https://hackertalks.com/post/8692093

Of course its a controversial user who got someone angry enough to automated downvoting @[email protected]

But you can see every post they make gets 53ish downvotes from these two instances, plus some organic ones after a few hours.

Current downvoting Accounts

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A individual user airing their personal biases and manipulating lemmy isn't good for the community, regardless of how you feel about their target. This is a really bad thing (tm)

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I am seeing posts from https://hexbear.net/ once again. Anyone know what happened since they lost their domain name? How did they get it back?

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Curious if anyone has the original Universal Monk comment handy.

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Another dust-up with Dansup lol...

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/903768

The author of the article characterizes their findings as a vulnerability in Pixelfed, that it was treating all follow requests as approved. An update has already been released to make Pixelfed honor that setting, but the vulnerability still exists with ActivityPub in the feature itself. It gives users a false expectation of privacy, which is not safe.

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So, for clarification, I was named in the feud but was never actually in the actual feud and am an observer, and can absolutely prove I was offline 100% of the time (deleted Lemmy comments linger, so it's not like I am erasing any involvement). I just happened to get namedropped as collateral damage (on another occasion, so did the Ask Lemmy mod Candyman337 simply for keeping Leni around, and Candyman337 wasn't in the feud either, and they are welcome to testify too). As an observer, this only made me want to observe it more though.

The whole thing was mentioned on Reddit. Leni was asked at one point by a .world admin if she (the admin) could ask questions in her server which is visible on her profile (I kind of wish she could have asked mine back when it would have been useful to reveal who I am despite the dangers like she had hence her old avatar, but whatever). That admin got a lazy streak due to how complicated things got before the Blahaj admins were given the offer starting in the replies of another so-called exposé (a recurring theme is these exposés are false and can be proven false, e.g. Davel on his main account tries claiming in the replies on another such thread of theirs that she is impersonating a Beehaw user when Leni's full name has been established for years and that it's the Beehaw user who is impersonating Leni). I'm would be inclined to say they actually took the time to listen because they, the most uptight instance, came to the exact opposite verdict, as seen by the "exposer's" fate after this deceiver was encouraged by another person to "downvote, report, block", ironically to deal with Leni's supposed troublemaking alts (which doesn't hold weight given that Candyman337 was themselves accused of being her alt). You know what they say, when the hecklers have egg on their face, they ought to eat it.

Thank you for giving hope, Blahaj admins hugs the admins

Let's look at the positives though. I think it's really cool that the Wayback Machine is in the fediverse, as shown by the fact that the part of your username showing your instance turns into "web.archive.org" when viewed under the Wayback Machine.

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Matrix user of almost a decade here. A PluralKit-like project actually does exist, a friend/ former partner of Ours developed it.

They are no longer on Matrix, and We wish We could follow suit. Do not use Matrix, it is absolutely not a safe space for marginalized folks by any stretch of imagination.

We know this because We were the defacto head of the last public safe space that was left standing, a feat only accomplished by terribly dedicated helpers (mods) and programmers who would make custom tooling for that community. It wasn't enough.

See, not only is Nev Vector Inc. very corporate oriented, they're actively hostile to community contributions. You can loudly yell about flaws that are easy to abuse, or make full code submissions of things that have been hotly requested for years, and it will be entirely ignored, if it doesn't directly align with their corporate interests.

Right now most of those who remained are scattered in a new community that's bridged between Discard, which at least does something to prevent the worst cases of abuse, and Revolt, which is still a pretty basic project feature set wise, compared to Matrix and Discard, but you can tell that it's made with actual care, it's also EU based.


Yeah, this lines up with what we've heard from a number of other people, sadly... that Matrix has been more interested in pandering to cops, governments, and corporations rather than building safe and respectful tech for everyday people. And that yes, you could self-host, but that it's a nightmare that they have no intent of making easier because it would conflict with their managed hosting services. Not to mention ongoing issues with metadata and loopholes that can be used for abuse. Unfortunate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/comments/1iyp159/encrypted_pluralkit/mf7v50f/

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Stay safe out there, folks

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alt textA screenshot shows a new linuxsucks community on the sh.itjust.works instance, a screenshot below it showing the moderator of the community getting banned five hours after its creation.

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It does not matter how calm or reasonable the comment is, if it's deemed to be in dissent of the Tankie mindset it's removed and you're banned

For context this next one ~~might have been~~ (have confirmed with Vitaly) was a comment to https://lemmy.world/post/26045579 (Crossposted version, original that was on .ml memes comm was removed as well so I can't pull up the original to pair the modlog entry to the post like I did for the first 2 screenshots)

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I've been interested to ask this after seeing so much happen in this community. How would you define a troll? The modlogs show many communities have rules against "trolling" but what is actually going on that makes it register with people.

I'm making an instance of my own and wanted to know. The last time I was on here, there was a drama about a mod which was based on another drama about the same mod, and this in turn was based on another drama about the same mod, which itself was based on a drama about that mod. That's a revelation with many implications I never see mentioned, that these are all connected (why isn't anyone mentioning this). I know this person, I know it's slander against her. Everyone called her a troll though for defending herself, which a few argue is in the same way a lot of people don't see issue with outright releasing private information.

I am a community owner and am on hiatus from helping out in another instance. I wanted everyone to know the person making the claims about her has been vetted and given the boot at least once, while the mod has been vetted and cleared of all suspicions, especially with it coming out now the people involved have compromised their agenda. I see he has gone on Shitter (linking to it only because XCancel is a mess and doesn't have a "sort by user replies" category system, which is an enormous oversight, and because this is someone who was praised on here with a hundred upvotes) to mass-slander-campaign against the person, as that's the sole bulk of their reply history. In a way, he even makes us look bad. These people are obsessed enough I understand the motives behind a previous question here that caused a lot of raised eyebrows. And that's not a troll? Is Shitter suddenly okay to reference again, considering the indifference with them? I'm eager to make it okay in my instance if it is.

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Lemmy doesn't like it when apologies :[

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/fediverselore
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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Sunshine to c/fediverselore
 
 

This further proves the case that this post was talking about https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/14003044

Cross-posted from "We Need to Hold the LW Gatekeepers Accountable" by @[email protected] in [email protected]


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A meme was posted to c/[email protected] with a partial picture of a driver's licence. The Lemmy users in the comments proceeded to post all the identifying information they could get from the license, including gender, date of birth, and zip code of the person's home. The meme is probably reposted and so this isn't doxxing the Lemmy OP, but that's what the users in the comments seem to think they're doing.

Collecting and disseminating someone's personal information is doxxing even if that information could be found anyway with enough time and knowledge.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/fediverselore
 
 
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Hexbear's domain has expired and the admins can't get ahold of the original registar. Currently up for auction at 20 bids and $550.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/fediverselore
 
 

Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net

Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure

Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531

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Anyone know if this is a glitch?

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I never expected to be in some Fediverse lore, but here I am. Credits to @[email protected] for making this.

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https://lemmy.nz/post/18610200/13255360

This user describes how most of the women-centered communities on Lemmy were shut down due to harassment of their members.

Another user adds "We need a safe space, but most of the women I know on here don’t have the time or energy to moderate it. And there’s so few of us, it feels like it’s not worth the effort anyway."

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/fediverselore
 
 

This was originally posted as a comment response in [email protected].

Back in December, the instance hosting 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone) announced that, as part of its mission as a trans-friendly space, harassment based on gender or neopronouns would remain** prohibited—even if the user in question was suspected of being a troll. Users were asked to disengage, block, and report suspected trolling behavior rather than bring harassment into a community already vulnerable to that kind of bullying.

There was a small backlash to the policy from some users. This led to a number of “toe the line” posts that weren’t outright gender-based harassment but strongly signaled an intent to misgender or harass in the future. Blahaj admins promptly removed all offending comments during this wave of dissent.

Important to note: The majority of the Blahaj and 196 users supported the policy, upvoting and praising the admins for creating a safe space for trans individuals.

By January, the backlash had mostly subsided, and the trolls causing issues had moved on. While the 196 moderators, including @moss and their team, did agree with the specific neopronouns policy, they remained unhappy with the broader policy of respect for trans identities. They cited “personal differences” and expressed discontent with instances where Blahaj admins directly removed comments which harassed or openly expressed intent to harass trans identities, feeling that it overstepped their role.*

Yesterday, @moss and the 196 moderation team enacted a major decision without consulting the community. They locked [email protected] and instructed users to move to [email protected].

This move was extremely unpopular. Many users strongly dislike lemmy.world for various reasons (a complicated topic better unpacked elsewhere). The announcement post was met with widespread backlash, and @moss eventually locked it. In response, a few users created a new community on Blahaj: [email protected]. The new community quickly grew in size and activity, with most users opting to stay on Blahaj rather than migrate to lemmy.world.

It’s clear @moss and the 196 moderators underestimated the community’s attachment to its home on Blahaj. By attempting to uproot the group without input, they alienated much of the community. As a result, most users have moved to the new Blahaj-hosted community, which has already become the more active space.

TL;DR:
@Moss and the 196 mod team tried to move the community to lemmy.world without consulting anyone. The decision was extremely unpopular, leading to backlash and the creation of a new Blahaj-hosted community that most users now prefer.

*This paragraph has been edited after receiving correction or clarification from @[email protected]. You can find that discussion here.

**”Remain” being the key word here. Blahaj has openly held the same trans-focused policies as always, and the admin Ada was simply reasserting her position here.

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