Men's Liberation

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This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.


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Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people


Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.



Be productive


Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize feminism or other people's efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed.

Keep the following guidelines in mind when posting:

  • Build upon the OP
  • Discuss concepts rather than semantics
  • No low effort comments
  • No personal attacks


Assume good faith


Do not call other submitters' personal experiences into question.



No bigotry


Slurs, hate speech, and negative stereotyping towards marginalized groups will not be tolerated.



No brigading


Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues.



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Though I don't think this terminology is used, this article is primarily about heteropessimism and it's effects on relationships from both sides.

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We seem to have a consistent problem with folks specifically taking issue with the titles of articles. To a degree I can understand this. Headlines these days can be subject to industry pressures resulting in inflammatory and clickbaity titles (if I understand correctly most headlines are not written by the author of the article but rather by an editor). That said it tends to derail conversation about otherwise useful articles. It is worth noting, however, that here on Lemmy we can edit post titles. In most cases, the quality of the discussion is better served by providing alternative titles and asking the OP to edit their post. If the post is otherwise so egregious that it cannot be saved, you are probably best off reporting it.

In the future posts complaining about the title of the article without regard for the content are likely to be removed under some combination of rules 4 & 5.

EDIT: For clarification because my wording may have been a little confusing. Simply complaining about a headline is generally not allowed, but stating why the headline is problematic is allowed (and productive) if you provide an alternate post title for OP and recenter discussion on the content of the article.

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From the podcast Waving the Red Flag
Ep 139: Eddy and Josh chop it up with FD Signifier to talk

Timestamps from description:
0:00 Preview
2:36 mindful Black fatherhood as a signifier of masculinity
8:34 the opposite of toxic masculinity
13:00 the trouble with breaking generational curses
18:12 "you have to forgive them, they're family"
29:35 getting past the "niggas ain't shit" discourse
37:51 men's sexual pleasure
40:22 decolonizing Black men's sexuality
53:07 urethral sounding
57:55 is kissing more intimate than head?

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We have just added some new rules to the sidebar. We hope that these rules will help facilitate constructive discussion as this community continues to grow. They are as follows:

Rules

1. Moderators reserve complete discretion to maintain a positive atmosphere, including removing comments and submissions, and banning offenders.

2. Be civil


Disagreements should be handled with respect, cordiality, and a default presumption of good faith. Engage the idea, not the individual, and remember the human. Do not lazily paint all members of any group with the same brush, or engage in petty tribalism.



3. Be the men’s issues conversation you want to see in the world.


Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize our approach, feminism, or other people's efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed.



4. Build upon the content in the original post.


It is vital to the health of the community to make sure that we are building on the work posted and not uncritically rehashing the same reactionary ideas endlessly.



5. Posts/comments solely focused on semantics rather than concepts are unproductive and will be removed. Shitposting and low-effort comments and submissions will be removed.

6. Attack ideas, not individuals.


Comments attacking a user, directly or indirectly, are not welcome and will be removed.



7. Individuals who don't identify as men are welcome to participate here.


Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals; be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.



8. Slurs and hatespeech are prohibited

9. Negative stereotyping and insensitivity towards marginalized groups will not be tolerated.

10. Do not call other submitters' personal stories into question.

11. Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere.

12. Links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues.


Links to other threads or communities that stir up meta-drama without adding something substantial to the conversation will be removed. All comments and posts including these links will be subject to moderator discretion in order to maintain a civil, productive discussion.


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I watched a video today talking about common talking points concerning how „the left has failed men“

I would argue F.D argues that while this is often cited as a critique on how „the Left“ is losing young men to right grifters like Tate, Peterson, etc.

He eventually argues that these misogynistic forces are not new and have only been thriving because of economic problems (capitalism yaaay) faced in the present.

As I really like this community I thought I give it a shot to post something. If I should try to give a broader summary of the video please feel free to tell me.

Thanks for reading :)

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“The first act of violence that patriarchy demands of males is not violence toward women. Instead patriarchy demands of all males that they engage in acts of psychic self-mutilation, that they kill off the emotional parts of themselves. If an individual is not successful in emotionally crippling himself, he can count on patriarchal men to enact rituals of power that will assault his self-esteem.”

That bell hooks quote was the one that made me realize that feminism wasn’t just about bringing women into equality with men, but about protecting everyone from the violence of patriarchy.

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Does anybody have any studies that look at male loneliness and pets? I know from personal experience that a pet can be the difference between falling into a depressive spiral and not.

I don't know what I would do without my cats, they are wonderful companions, very sweet and they seem to sense when I'm feeling down and come to cuddle with me or ask me to play.

Have any other folks here had similar experiences they'd like to share?

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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/2911882

For some women in China, "Barbie" is more than just a movie — it's also a litmus test for their partner's views on feminism and patriarchy.

The movie has prompted intense social media discussion online, media outlets Sixth Tone and the China Project reported this week, prompting women to discuss their own dating experiences.

One user on the Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu — a photo-sharing site similar to Instagram that's mostly used by Gen Z women — even shared a guide on Monday for how women can test their boyfriends based on their reaction to the film.

According to the guide, if a man shows hatred for "Barbie" and slams female directors after they leave the theatre, then this man is "stingy" and a "toxic chauvinist," according to Insider's translation of the post. Conversely, if a man understands even half of the movie's themes, "then he is likely a normal guy with normal values and stable emotions," the user wrote.

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Please feel free to break off any of these videos into their own thread.

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This is an older article but we love to see a supportive dad.

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