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Any Proton Drive users here? (community.home-assistant.io)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

cross-posted from: https://feddit.nl/post/28357841

Are you interested in a Proton Drive backup location in Home Assistant's new built-in backup tool?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Screw Proton and their oligarch fellating CEO.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

This right here, so glad I dodged that bullet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm with you, but what's a equivalent service?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Posteo.de if you don't need a custom domain, Mailbox.org if you do.

For cloud storage it should be a different service anyways, it's best not to combine things with the same company. So for example Tresorit for storage, Bitwarden for passwords, Mullvad for a VPN, etc..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Great advice, do not put all your eggs in one basket. Makes it easier to jump ship when it's only one service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

+1 to this. Tresorit and Mullvad are both exceptional

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

mailbox.org isn't encrypted like Proton mail is. (Of course, Proton could steal your decryption password, but still)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Proton is only encrypted between proton users. Proton mail to/from gmail or outlook is plain text, unless the recipient sets up PGP, and you can do E2EE with PGP over any host.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

All mail is typically encrypted in transit with smtps, and Proton mail is encrypted at rest. But that's true, it's not e2ee, so I guess they could just scrape it all as it comes in, if they're not doing so already.

Both companies are based in Europe though so I figure US spying laws don't apply?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For what? I'm using Nextcloud self hosted on unraid and exposed via Nginx Proxy Manager for external access for storage.

Works fine.

I have not upgraded to the 2025 HA yet because of the backup drama of the first release. Probably will this weekend now that the major issues were addressed.

Unrelated to this topic but also zigbee2mqtt v2 seems to be a nightmare too I'm not ready to deal with that "upgrade"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I left to Tuta (E2EE and German based) and switched from Simple Login to Addy. Took less than an hour and it’s been smooth sailing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Addy user here! Been using it for years now and just last week, I saw an uptick in one of my aliases. Turned it off with a single toggle and no more spam.

The ability to self-host is awesome if I ever get to that stage. But right now, I want to keep giving them money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I just want to say,what is up with people down voting a perfectly innocuous comment? You got two down votes as of this writing.

[–] DiabolicalBird 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What did I miss? I've seen comments like this a couple times and I'm not entirely sure what happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DiabolicalBird 4 points 3 weeks ago

Well, that's... less than ideal. I use a couple of their services, it was a royal pain in the ass to get all my email stuff moved over to Proton in the first place.

I'll have to keep an eye on what they're doing, I'll take this as a warning sign. I'm moving most of my stuff to self host anyway, with the exception of email.