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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (19 children)

    You have overdone the pedantic part, so I will do the same: GUI has objectively way more visual noise, so exactly in professional software development setting I prefer using NeoVim with plugins, configured by me for my convenience, because I have no intention of spending any extra effort, and more importantly, thought, on whatever the IDE decided I must need. I want to think about the task at hand, not memorize the finger-twisting magical shortcuts or mouse-clicking several menu layers to do one damn simple thing

    [–] masterspace -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

    GUI has objectively way more visual noise

    Nope. You can open up VSCode and just have it open to a terminal window if you want.

    A GUI + Terminal gives you more options than just a terminal. It's not complicated and it's not arguable, one is a superset of the other.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (13 children)
    • that is not VSCode default, so nah. once again: I have no time for battling against software

    • and if I do not want the GUI part, how come it surprises you that I do not use that superset?

    [–] masterspace 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    and if I do not want the GUI part, how come it surprises you that I do not use that superset?

    Go ahead and represent an arbitrary 3d shape using the command line, suddenly you may realize that a typewriter's interface isn't the fastest for accomplishing every programming task.

    Regardless, you can be happy with a limited subset of functionality and trying to cram every interaction into text, that's not an argument that that way is better or that a new dev should go that route, just that you can get by using that method.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    It’s wild to me that people that people use VIM in professional software development settings

    Ya, sure. wild that professional software development does not begin and end with 3d shapes. Great worldvew, thanks

    [–] masterspace 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    My worldview is that it's wild to choose a dev tool chain incapable of drawing basic 2d shapes, when you have ones available that can do anything.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    So I re-state the same n-th time over: I, and many other devs, have no need to draw anything. So I, and many other devs, will choose whatever works for us, and there is exactly nothing wild in doing so

    [–] masterspace 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Have you tried using VSCode / VSCodium? I've tried using a VIM based workflow and found myself missing many graphical dev features in VSCode.

    And sure, there's nothing wild about continuing to use a process that works for you, but it is a little wild to insist that your process is the best and other people should learn it, if you also know that it has inherent limitations that alternatives don't.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Also, vim-like mode in IDE gives me a headache too :)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Tried, it irritates me. And nope, I never said my workflow is the best. I answered to your "wild" part. There is nothing wild in coding in vim. And yes, people proclaiming vim family is the greatest thing there is are no better than people proclaiming that only full-fledged IDE can get any job done

    [–] masterspace 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Fair point, I misspoke / don't actually think that it's wild, I was being dramatic.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Then I offer my apologies for speaking too harshly. And thank you for another perspective on software, I did not think about shapes much before

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Lol I am not making 3d shapes in the first place. Anyway, here ya go: 1,2,3

    4,5,6

    7,8,9

    10,11,12

    Do you need an explanation for that?

    [–] masterspace 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    K, now give me the longest edge and it's displacement relative to the x axis. Then rotate the shape until that edge is roughly 33 degrees off the z axis.

    Oh wow, look, suddenly it may be helpful to have a way other than text to draw and visualize things.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    It may be, but really it doesn't even matter to me. I will choose the tool that can do that using command line anyway

    [–] masterspace 1 points 1 month ago
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