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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Are there any TV manufacturers out there that do great screens like the lg ones, but without all the rest of the bullshit?

We are in the market for a huge TV soon, and we were looking at the lg oled Evo. However I don't really like rewarding bad behaviour, so if there's any others you can suggest then suggest away...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

For what it's worth, I subscribe to the "use your TV as a screen, plug another device in to deal with content" method. It's not connected to the network.

So, whatever my TV wants to do, I'm not using it's janky apps that might get slow over time or try to advertise to me - my Nvidia shield (which is on the ropes/way out due to some updates it pushed) CEC wakes the TV and plays content without having any particular insight into my emotional state. But I can replace that relatively easily/cheaply until my screen literally stops working, rather than if some new service isn't supported on it or an old one is deprecated.

I'm being tempted to replace the shield with a NUC or other device due to the updates I mentioned above - but I can probably replace the launcher more easily.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You're still rewarding bad behaviour. They still put all the crap on and made the sale anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They make more money from those continued sales through their app store and commercials. I've heard (on reddit news articles posted to r/technology, so not exactly the most reliable source) more than the profit for the initial sale of the tv because they actually subsidize the initial price and may sell it at a loss to get those ads in your livingroom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

To get them to stop they need to lose both the original sale and the additional advertising revenue. Right now their thinking is:

  • People are buying our TVs
  • Putting advertising on them isn't causing our sales to drop
  • Therefore it's costing us next to nothing to do.
  • It often gets us extra revenue if they connect to the internet.
  • If they don't connect, we still more than covered our costs.

There is no downside for them. Only upside. The equation needs to change for them to stop doing it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Them missing out on a dozen sales because of that isn't going to change their ways either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

No, which is why people saying "Buy it and don't connect it to the internet" isn't helping. More people need to not buy it and tell other people not to buy it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've been planning to do the same thing when our current batch of TVs kick the bucket. But I was going to use an appletv, not a NUC, because all of the streaming services only serve 2k through browsers but their apps can get 4k+. And for the rest I'll run jellyfin and serve from my home media server. The TV will never see the a valid internet connected network.

Recently my roku tv started showing a blaringly loud auto-play ad on the homepage once every 2-3 weeks. FUCK THAT.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My lg tv is honestly the best tv i have ever owned. I have 0 complaints, my old house got flooded a few years ago and the tv soaked up a good amount of water and after some running time, it went back to working flawlessly.

But i would never connect that fucker to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Exactly this. I love my LG, but it doesn’t get internet privileges.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

As much as I loathe Samsung for many of their practices, there are options if you look for Commercial signage or hospitality tvs

[–] Grappling7155 2 points 4 days ago

I’ve heard that Sceptre is a good brand for that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Maybe Panasonic or Philips they use LG OLED panels. I don’t know if they spy or not but worth investigating. Or Bang and Olufsen if you are swimming cash.