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Well… 1. FL Studio is proprietary but they’re super respectful of the community.
They have been improving FL for longer than I lived know. (I’m 16yo)
But! It still doesn’t work on linux lol — it’s cool with Wine, some freeze here and there, but when you use VSTs which are kinda essential to make music, it just sometimes crashes.
It had the good aspect of pushing me to sample more, so I discovered a new way to make music ;) !
Linux is perfectly usable for going on Internet, browsing shit, incredible for programming, and very good for playing games. Okay… but, I need to create, not just consume!
I’m on Arch Linux, I got no problems, it’s very fun since I switched two years ago when I got my laptop but for something, Linux is so bad. I wish I could fix that? But I can’t do it alone :)
You think that programming isn't creative? :P
How? Serious question, what are your pain points?
Stop using proprietary software that you can't fix (or get someone to fix). :P
Try using a virtual machine if you really need to run windows, but...
The ideal solution would be to work out how to replace it in your workflow, even if that means you need to learn to code and build your own tool.
If there's a community that's already out there working on similar open source software I'm sure that they would welcome new contributors with open arms; they can't do it alone either.
Maybe you don't know the language or can't code, but you can still help out with documentation, triaging bugs, etc. Learning to submit useful bug reports and reproduce bugs from other users can help developers spend their time fixing bugs not working out what's going on.
I'm not suggesting that someone switch over to them immediately, but accepting the status quo is a great way to ensure that it will never change. There's no inherent reason that this software can't run on Linux; as you've pointed out it's that nobody has cared enough to do the porting.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
If you want better audio production on Linux put in some work. I provided a ton of non-coding ways that someone can contribute to those products.
I'm pragmatic enough that I suggested the use of a Windows VM.
I do think programming is creative, I just didn’t talk precisely about it because it wasn’t the focus of the conversation :).
Linux is very bad for music creation, the ecosystem is lacking the incredible tools like Ableton or FL studio, and the VSTs. You can’t shit done on Linux in this area right now, well I’ve made some music but what a pain it was.
I won’t stop using proprietary software just for the sake of using Linux. I need and I like FL Studio, it’s a very good DAW. Stop trying to convert everyone to your open-source utopia, it can’t exist! I love open-source, I’m an open-source contributor on a few projects and most of my projects (the good ones) are open-source too! But, try to make music with open-source tools and we can talk about it.
Some of them are good but not as good as an Omnisphere, a Serum, or a Purity, or a Ozone RX 9 for mixing.
And no, I won’t involve myself into an open-source DAW because I’ve literally got other shit to do right now than filling issues or PRs that no one will read on GitHub.
The way you talk about things is not helpful, it is just the same copy-pasted shit every time. Open-source… bugs… developers… community… proprietary software bad…
Stop acting like a malfunctioning cyborg.
That's a great interim workaround. Do you know if it's been documented anywhere?
So what you're saying is that it's possible but that the tools aren't great right now?
It sounds like you're in a position to make some headway on that.
So they're not all 'very bad' then?
Why do you assume that issues or PRs won't be read and actioned? That's not my experience working with open source?
Bullshit (and beside the point).
Make me.
Edit: I did ask for actual pain points and you didn't respond to that.
Edit2: a quick update from IRC
neutroniak: lmms supports VSTs