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The kind of dumbassery I've had to deal with this weekend both IRL and online. Someone kill me please.
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I recommend we don’t bring that cryptofascist bullshit to the fediverse.
“Huehuehue this Nazi sure did post a funny meme, let’s circlejerk with him! This couldn’t possibly have any negative consequences!”
I don't see how a post criticizing rape defenders can be "cryptofascist" but go off, I guess.
They are talking about political compass memes, not whatever strawman you are presenting.
See? A great example of how cryptofascists cloak themselves in non-sensual arguments. This dipshit knows I’m talking about PCMs and yet he tries to position me as a rape apologist.
Fuck off, nazi lover.
No, I am legitimately trying to understand your point and why liking a certain kind of memes would make me or anyone else a "cryptofascist".
Why don't you try to put together a sensible argument instead of spewing out accusation and calling anyone you don't agree with a nazi? I am not a nazi, I don't love nazis and I most definitely don't condone what they did. Geez, I can't even believe I have to type this out loud.
You gotta realize that cryptofascist means "This person isn't a facist, hasn't said or done anything fascist, but I want to call them fascist anyway.
Okay, then you’re exactly the type of naive, politically uninformed liberal that we have to make sure never interacts with Nazis.
I wouldn't call myself a naive liberal but I'm definitely closer to that then being a fucking Nazi.
Anyway I still don't see an argument.
Your inability to detect fascism only becomes my problem at the point of fascists attempting to recruit you. Have a nice day!
Dude… go outside 💀 it’s not that serious
Says the cryptorapist.
I think he's upset alt-right dipshits could potentially garner quarter from others because it shows that all political factions have a common belief, when the alt-right should be ostracized at all costs.
They forgot about the fucking tankies in the upper left corner.
Also it could just be an issue that upsets them emotionally. Just leave them alone and let them have a moment to breathe.
Personally I am just glad it's possible we all can still agree on something, but that's missing the point of the meme. The point is that rape apologia is evil.
Pretends to be opposed to fascism but ends with a criticism of the left and an exhortation to find common ground with Nazis.
This, this right here.
No man, authoritarians of every stripe are fucking evil.
You cannot actually be a member of the left and be in favor of authoritarianism. It goes back to the very beginning of the terms left and right to describe political leanings. We can blame the French, but the term started with a vote, the question was "should the king have an absolute veto" Those who said yes sat on the right, those who said no on the left.
In other words, the authoritarians sat on the right, the people who believed in the power of the people sat on the left.
Tankies take the ideals of the left, and then subvert them in favor of authoritarianism. Orwell wrote about it in Animal Farm, the betrayal of the revolution by the Pigs, because while all animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others.
Tankies are just another form of monarchist, pretending to be an ally of the left. I do lump them in with Nazis as being dangerous to my ideals of equality and freedom. After all, tankies are just as likely to kill actual communists, it's how the name was coined.
Yes you can be a leftist and a tyrant. Its called communism.
Yes, the tyranny of workers owning the factories they labor in. Collectively owning the businesses they work for, everyone having an equal voice in government.
And before you chime in with nonsense, Lenin and Mao both decided that some animals were more equal than other animals. They betrayed the ideal to hoard power to themselves, to make themselves the most equal of all, and their people suffered for it, because that's what authoritarianism does. Stalin was worse in every way, taking the mask off fully.
All three killed actual communists who wanted a free and open society, a democratic communism of the people, by the people, for the people. It's where the term Tankie comes from. Stalin used tanks to put down the Hungarian revolution, see, Hungary wanted to be communist, they just didn't want to be a soviet buffer state. They wanted their own government. So Stalin ordered the tanks in, and Tankies in western nations cheered.
They cheered again at Tiananmen Square.
Because actual communism is always a threat to authoritarians, be they mask off right wing, or the ones who pretend to be "lefties" while actually agreeing with every single thing western conservatives say, but with a different country worshiped.
Speaking of, both China and Russia are fully capitalistic now, they went mask off a few decades back. Because capitalism is a great way to promote that inequality that authoritarianism demands.
Imagine thinking people on the left can't be authoritarian.
The left tries to get rid of hierarchies, the right relies on them.
You sort of need a hierarchy to have authoritarianism.
Well they failed every chance they got. It literally turned into Leninist Communism where there's a top down structure never has been a socialist paradise and never can be. Someone will quickly take the reigns if somebody gives up their own.
The perfect refutation of that, ironically, is a rapist and their victim.
And another example of what the modern cryptofascist looks like. I’m sure surprised that a brigade is incoming.
Are the fascists in the room with you right now?
Imagine trying to say that fascism isn’t here when Trump has a real chance of winning again and a woman was just killed for hanging a pride decoration. Fuck you.
I think you might need a therapist.
When did we get to the point that saying rape apologists are bad become controversial?
A lot of human beings are just awful.
This is brilliant LMAO.