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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/54702508

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

Man, real countries are doing this shit while the US is doing an illegal war on the thought crime of being"woke".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I would rather have 50,000,000,000bps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Bigger Number = Better

The math is mathing correctly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Git outta here with that thar metric mumbo jumbo!

[–] PhAzE 14 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

There's a bunch of places in the US that has 10 Gbps speed, so this jump to 50 Gbps is not too shocking. Writing it as 50,000 Mbps to make it seem huge is an interesting take.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

It's so incredibly annoying when people use smaller order of magnitude descriptors simply so they can then write more zeros. A good chunk of the time too it feels like it's done to distract from a different point or to exaggerate without technically lying.

Doesn't help that technical jargon is only best used when communicating with someone in that field or understands it. Big number + alphabet soup always seems scary 😞

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I’m just pretty sure my fiber vendor offers 10Gbps service but I’ve never had reason to check whether they offer it here. There app is not responding so I can’t verify …. They are better at fiber service than maintaining an app.

Personally I think gig fiber is the current sweet spot:

  • price has come down a lot
  • very low latency
  • high reliability
  • more than enough for most people

It’s technically overkill for most people but a huge benefit is it works. For everything. Cable tends to be way over-provisioned for plus asymmetrical and higher latency, so you won’t get the bandwidth you pay for, uploads will be slow, and latency may hit you while gaming or streaming. Most of the time cable or slower fiber will be good enough but you will hit glitches, buffering. My gigabit fiber has been rock solid for years, never a glitch, never a buffering, no slow uploads, never impacts gaming. It’s near perfect. I dont mind the extra cost due to the huge savings from dropping cable and phone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It will be in 10 years when a majority of their country has access to it. Industrialization in China is on a different level.

In less than 25 years they will take the top spot for global economy, and likely everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

China will be lucky if they still exist as a single unified nation. Demographics, employment, debt, over built property market, over dependence on manufacturing exports, energy import dependence, food import dependence.

They have a number of very strong headwinds that could very well cause the failure and break up of the CCP in the next twenty years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

Have you ever stepped food into China? I have. And I can tell you from personal experience they're living in the future.

They have their own fair share of problems. But the investments they're making into infrastructure are very easily going to catapult them to the head of the class here very shortly...

I'm really tired of being told how distopian China is from people who've never even been there.

[–] humanspiral 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

640kb should be enough for anybody.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

640kb? Luxury.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Why do I care? Why it need to be so fast?

What is everyone doing with their internet that I'm apparently missing out on?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Decades ago....

"Why do I need electricity? I have candles. Lights seem excessive."

Yes, but once most people have electricity, new products will be designed to take advantage of it. Now you can have a washing machine, for example.

Broadband is the same. Once most of your population has high bandwidth, we can start to design things that will use it. Right now we're still designing for DSL speeds.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but have you considered China bad?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

China morally bankrupt and developing at a staggering pace which has somewhat stymied as their scoffing at regulations in favor of backroom dealings is kneecapping themselves.

So if you zoom in close enough, like looking at this amazingly fast reported internet speed and only at this speed, China "good."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Notice how many extra hoops you jumped through to get here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

To arrive at "China Good," yes you do need to jump through many hoops. Glad we're on the same page, even if you started out strangely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

That's entirely speculative. There are diminishing returns. Unless you're going to host your own YouTube, the use case for 50Gbps connections to the home is quite small. 4K video streaming at Ultra HD Blu-ray bitrates doesn't even come close to saturating 1Gbps, and all streaming services compress 4K video significantly more than what Ultra HD Blu-ray offers. The server side is the limit, not home connections.

Now, if you want to talk about self-hosting stuff and returning the Internet to a more peer-to-peer architecture, then you need IPv6. Having any kind of NAT in the way is not going to work. Connection speed still isn't that important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

Unless you're going to host your own YouTube....

This is exactly what peer tube is struggling with. This bandwidth would solve the video federation problem.

See, you get it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

Except we need IPv6 before that's at all viable.

We are not even filling out the bandwidth of pipes we have to the home right now. "If you build it, they will come" does not apply when there's already something there that isn't being fully utilized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How exactly does NAT prevent that? On good hardware it adds insignificant latency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It has nothing to do with latency, and everything to do with not being able to directly address things behind NAT.

Edit: and please, nobody argue that NAT increases security. That dumbass argument should have died the moment it was first uttered.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

It's not fast it's more of more bandwidth, means more people can be connected from one line. Speed will remain the same.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

360 VR experience with 16K resolution, highly textured touchable surfaces, and smell-o-vision. Only a $40 Meta subscription with ads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Latency is much more critical than bandwidth for any sort of real-time VR.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We'll solve that with AI. Because you can solve anything by saying "AI".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

What about quantum computing? I don't want anything without quantum computing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Quantum computing with AI

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

That goes without saying.

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