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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 hours ago

Trump is such a piece of shit, zelensky showed so much restraint. I think I would have slapped that traitor into the next dimension

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I know the main thing here is Vance and Trump backstabbing and bullying Zelenskyy, but I just want to point out that Trump repeatedly talked about "raw earth" instead of "rare earths". We're truly fucked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Trump is America's Boris Johnson turned up 100. The act of stupidity is intentionally, to provide a thin veneer of plausible deniability in case the rule of law comes back swinging it's prejudice cock to only smack either Vance in the face as he Pardons Trump and Musk.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I checked a few parts for a few minutes. It was too painful to watch.

Troomp and JD couch showed the worst traits leaders could have. The obvious ones are the American superiority complexes and the toxic need to escalate and talk down upon others.

In all of the bits I saw when skipping trough it, Zelenksy deescalated the situation multiple times while Trump and especially Vance escalated and started talking like some pretentious teenager bullies that gotten themselves a country.

Fuck the USA.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

"Diplomacy dies"

What diplomacy has there been for the past 3 years of war?

[–] [email protected] 229 points 6 hours ago

Zelenskyy is a goddamn hero

fuck trump fuck vance fuck musk fuck putin

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Has a VP ever sat with the president while meeting with a foreign president like this? Maybe Biden in Obama's first term? Cheney and Bush the 2nd behind closed doors but never in front of the cameras

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I really wish Zelenskyy had said something to Trump like "Why are you letting him speak for you? Are you not the one in charge?"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 123 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

CIA used to kill presidents for less. Sometimes American ones too.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They really need to step in here, before Putin moves into the white house permanently

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 hours ago

The CIA is in the business of installing despots, not removing them.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

As usual, Trump is projecting. Someone is "gambling with WWIII," but it sure ain't Zelenskyy.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 hours ago

+100

Anyone who thought this would work out differently was simply not paying attention or was being willfully ignorant.

US provided a deal Zelinsky simply could not sign and they knew it. Chump set Zelinsky up for this shit show cause, in his world, Chump either gets the deal he wants or he gets to act/look tough.

And how masculine/tough to have Couchie there backing him up cause Chump isn't brave enough to do it all on his own.

And, of course, all concludes with disastrous results all around.

🤦‍♀️ 🖕 🖕 🤡

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Trump’s Hot Take: If someone breaks into your home, begins stealing stuff and murdering your family, just stand by. You don’t want to cause a stir.

[–] OutlierBlue 20 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Trump's Hot Take: Give me half your stuff and I'll help you stop that other thief/murderer.

It's a great deal because he's gonna take everything.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago

He's specifically saying he won't help them stop Russia he's saying he'll help a cease fire which Russia always breaks, legit I don't know of a single cease fire Russia has ever honored.

Even with Sweden they'd lose make peace then try again

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

god maga folk are the most unamerican beyond belief. The whole greatest generation is rolling over in their graves.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 hours ago

They voted in a Russian agent as the president. They are beyond evil. They are traitors.

[–] [email protected] 192 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

And then to top off his hissy fit, he kicked Zelenskyy out. Like the diaper wearing toddler he is.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

America is an enemy to freedom, democracy, and peace to the world; Americans just haven't felt it yet.

They will soon when the dictatorship turns violent, after all checks and balances are removed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Transgender Americans and other minority groups are feeling it for sure. It's just not the white suburban traditional family Americans who have felt the pinch yet (aside from the price of eggs).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, as i canadian I hope the petition is signed to allow trans folk to claim refugee status goes somewhere

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Then he cut off all aid to Ukraine for rebuilding their power grid.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Real Art of The Deal shit.

Absolute fucking masterclass in statesman-like diplomacy.

Genuinely a moment for all Americans to be proud of. Truly, exceptional.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 hours ago (9 children)

Coming from YouTube, all the comments were saying Trump put Zelenksy in his place.. are people actually that stupid, or is the whole internet edgy rightwing bots?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Your comment had me go to YouTube to check, and almost all the top 30 comments were pro Zelensky.

[–] Revan343 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if YouTube shows you different 'top' comments based on their profile on you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Possible, they don't seem to be sorted by either time, replies or likes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

YouTube has some sort of sorting algorithm, but I have no idea what it sorts by. I've had a video open, looked at some of the comments, then come back the next day, refreshed the page, and had a new set of comments at the top from the same time period, with no discernible pattern to why they're positioned where they are. You might find the top comment you saw previously with 1.5k likes 10 comments down the next day and a comment with 200-400 likes at the top, followed by a comment with 7k likes you didn't see previously, and all from 5 months ago when the video was first posted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Wow! Because YT commenters tend to be a particular kind of stupid.

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[–] eezeebee 20 points 4 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Don't forget the ungodly amount of bots out there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

A good chunk of the comments will be straight up Russian propaganda. Another good chunk will be Americans who have bought into that propaganda wholeheartedly.

It's an embarrassing time to be an American.

[–] floofloof 9 points 3 hours ago

Trump got elected twice, so I fear it might just be people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

I showed a clip of the meeting to someone I know and that is pretty much what they said.

We are so fucked.

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