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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago

Getting rid of plastic straws, but not cups and lids was such a stupid thing. There are substitutes for cups, but they cost more, so they weren't a good option for greenwashing.

If you're already minimizing seafood intake because of the lead content, you're already minimizing your personal impact of fishing net use. What we need to do is legislate the use of hemp nets. Hemp was the primary net maternal before the oil industry put their weight behind making hemp illegal under the guise of "The War On Drugs!" and made plastic/nylon nets the default.

[–] howrar 7 points 3 hours ago

That would be ideal, but each person has limited time and attention. Advocate for both, but put your efforts into figuring out how to change the thing with the larger impact.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

to be fair that was a regulator decision. they seem to have went for the low hanging fruit of something relatively easy to replace without impacting the bottom line.

not gonna save the world by a long shot, but its a better than nothing sort of deal im surprised they even bothered with in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My conspiracy theory is it was chosen to deliberately harm the optics of environmentalists. Something with minimal useful impact and maximum inconvenience would turn people against the whole idea of environmentally friendly alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

I see a lot of people who share your opinion. I used to work rehabbing sea turtles and EVERY turtle we received alive or dead had straws/bags in their gut. It might not seem super important but those products look more like jellyfish and turtles have poor eyesight.

The nets commercial fishing boats make the most plastic waste by a lot but declining a plastic straw and bringing your own bag to shop WILL save a life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's also a product of the guy on the left likely has never used and will never use a fishing net. It's kind of like the tarrifs on Canada. America wasn't ever complaining that drugs were being trafficked over the the Canadian border but that is the reason they are giving for the tarrifs. The truth I see is one of the highest imports from Canada to the U.S. is Aluminum. Coke already stated if Aluminum costs go up, they will simply make more of their products in plastic bottles instead to keep their costs down. Those plastic bottles are made from petroleum which funds much of the GOP's campaigns. He is simply paying back oil executives by ensuring aluminum prices rise. Cokes profits stay the same, Oil companies profits go up. Where does the money come from? Working class Americans

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I am all for minimizing/eliminating single use plastics. But when i get served a milkshake in a plastic mug, with a plastic lid, and a plastic spoon, but a paper straw because of "save the sea"...

i just wish we used our brains more.

[–] epicstove 2 points 6 hours ago

Honestly how much more expensive would glass mugs/cups be? Like A&W Canada will give you a chilled mug for root beer (and other drinks but the root beer is iconic)

If it's to go then then paper cups are fine. The paper straws are just annoying...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

What if dispenser machines had a pay by volume model? You bring your own thing, they fill it, and charge you by how much you use. Would probably need something added to measure flow and set prices, but it's not like a McDonalds built in the 70s is still using exactly the same machines they were back then.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Could just do it by weight. Put vessel under nozzle. Zero scale, and hold till weight determined for sale, hand to customer. Could likely even have software do it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Gas pump style soda fountains would be absolutely hilarious. Truly the peak of american culture.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Years ago at Universal for Halloween Horror Nights they used bottom fill beer dispensers. They had a connector on the bottom of the cup so you could grab a cup pop it down on the machine and keep going. Say 15 beers in seconds. The beer fills to the exact height needed with the exact desired foam amount on top. No over poors or needing to have any loss. Time was cut down drastically. The cups had to be expensive, but when your charging $10 for $1 with of product you don't have to worry to much about cup cost I guess. I remember thinking at that moment American Capitalism has peaked haha.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

This but in Oregon you'd get yelled at for doing it yourself. :p

Edit: Huh, turns out they lifted that ban in 2023 so now people can pump their own gas.

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