The worst part of this is the "This is part of the story"
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I did a read on FATAL's book in a Discord VC not long ago, and it just keeps going and going and going and going...the jokes about rolling for anal circumference actually do it justice. Would be hell to play, though, there's definitely better horny RPGs to try ~~any RPG is a horny RPG if you try hard enough~~
On an actual comment, mom could really be player 4 there, they clearly need someone to tank those hits
Yeah the issue with F.A.T.A.L. isn't just that it's text and mechanics are horrifically racist and misogynistic, it's also a terrible game. It's clunky and clumsy and it's difficult to play because it's poorly written. The author spent more time thinking about his rape fantasies than figuring out how to roll them out in any coherent way.
Also, very minor in comparison, but the food section is batshit wild. It's like written by someone who never ate before, the ideas of what makes cuisines in F.A.T.A.L. is hilariously bad.
"If you want to make a racist and misogynistic game, at least make it fun" - Gygax, probably
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the issue ... isn't just that it's ... horrifically racist and misogynistic, it's also a terrible game
It's funny, but it seems like I read this phrase a lot, and not just about games (book series, movies, shows, etc). I can't think of any other good examples off the top of my head, but it seems that every time an artist takes a really cool or interesting concept and fills it with bigotry, they also fill it with poorly written mechanics, potholes, clunky dialogue...
Sure, there's media with language that doesn't age well, but it seems like 9/10, when something is made with blatant hate, there isn't even an incentive to try to push past or ignore it; the content is garbage with or without the drivel. The initial concept is just good enough to get people to want to give it a shot.
I think that what's happening here is that
- The vast majority of any is poorly made, but because there are better alternatives, the poorly made ones rarely see the light of day
And
- The more specialized or niche something is, the more likely it is to stand out despite being poorly made
This includes racist garbage and weird fetishes, yes, but also any other game whose main selling point is its uniqueness instead of its quality.
There's another all-time-worst game called Racial Holy War, which is exactly what you'd assume from the title. And yes, it's incompetently made to the point where they didn't include mechanics for ATTACKING.
Actually, there aren't any attacking mechanics because Racial Holy War is actually a very pro-peace and pacifist peace of work, didn'tcha know?
A lot of old stuff is super racist and well made. The Birth of A Nation was revolutionary in film and influenced many future movies despite literally being a movie about how awesome the KKK are. Lovecraft was famously racist as fuck and a lot of his "Eldritch horror" was sort of a metaphor for his fears of "primitive" religions and miscegenation. Even Lord of the Rings has racist elements - JRR Tolkein said in multiple occasions that he based the dwarves on Jews, which is pretty rough to modern readers given that the dwarves are more obsessed with gold and treasure than anything else.
Tolkien's "inspiration" for Dwarves pulling from Jews is fascinating, as a Jew. I read that his thoughts were that Dwarves were a strong, resilient people who had been displaced from their homeland but maintained a strong attachment to their traditions and their craft. He saw this as a deferential depiction of Jews and was purposely trying to move away from European depictions of Jews as goblin-like monsters. What's fascinating is how it is still riddled with antisemitic tropes such as the obsession with gold, their "quarrelsome" nature, and also literally making them a different race of short-statured people who lived underground. It speaks to how deeply ingrained antisemitism was (and to an extent, still is) in the European mind while also lightly espousing Zionist ideas in how living in diaspora is somehow less than living in historical Judea.
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Would be hell to play, though, there's definitely better horny RPGs to try
My issue with horny RPGs is that if you can find people to play with that are into whatever kink the book is catering to, why would you bother to play at all? Just have sex.
And on the flipside, if you dont want to have sex with the people you're playing with, why play the sexy game? Just play a regular RPG
It's not always about horniness, per se. For example, I'm trans, and giving birth is something I'll always want but probably will never get to experience. So maybe I want to experience a "power fantasy" of sorts where my trans character performs dark rituals to give birth to eldritch abominations, all so she can experience motherhood.
I'm sure there are other experiences that people would want to rp but not necessarily to experience irl. It certainly overlaps with kink, but it's not like you're masturbating at the table. You're telling a story with adult themes, not (necessarily) writing erotica.
Does that need a specifically developed diceroll mechanic though? Seems like there's a huge roleplaying narrative landscape that doesn't need to use specific gamerules for thinga like eldrich pregnancies. Or it'd be pretty easy to ad-hoc without making it a central theme of the underlying mechanics.
Does anything need mechanics? You could just rp everything, after all.
I'm not saying you need something like FATAL, btw, the system I'm referring to is The Sword, the Crown and the Unspeakable Power. It's a pretty normal PTBA system, plus a handful of moves that let you gain an advantage when you sleep with someone (as you might expect for courtly intrigue in an 18+ setting). There's also one class that lets you give birth to eldritch abominations, but that's less of a 'roll for pregnancy' thing and more of a dark ritual. It doesn't have to be done out of a deep yearning for motherhood - that was just the direction I took it because it resonated with me.
Because I have friends that are fun to flirt with but aren't actually into me, and because I'm too fucked up with intimacy issues to fuck anyone?
🖐️🖐️🖐️ edit: "hear hear" not "fuck me"
...why would you bother to play at all? Just have sex.
Someone's clearly never been in a queer polycule.
Life isn't meant to be chaste! Forgoe your chains for whips!
HA YES
I have thought about this in embarrassing depth.
The first reason I can think of is when sex isn't an option. Maybe you're in a long distance relationship or something. It gives a good structure to what is essentially phone sex.
The second reason is as a form of foreplay. We already have sexy roleplay in the sheets to help set the mood, and now we're just using character sheets instead of bed sheets. Then your "what would you like to do" can be followed by a demonstration.
This is why I think sexy RPGs should be designed for couples.
I played a horny rpg at a kink convention that went fairly well. I suppose the nuance to the situation was "I probably want to have sex with you, but I'm not sure, why don't we engage in some nerdy sexually charged situations and find out?"
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Theres a bunch of people in my life I definitely don't want to have sex with, but I love being horny with
I don't personally fill that niche by playing horny RPGs but I imagine they'd be a great time with these people
Sexually charged, though otherwise usual situations are also just a lot of fun.
I would argue that just flirting around with friends is like, a top 10 experience ever.
Yep, it’s entirely possible to enjoy sexual situations and content as a group without actually engaging in sex. 100% agree with the “flirting around with friends” sentiment.
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Tagging this as NSFW would have been appreciated. I filter those things out for a reason
Yup, sorry about that, I wasn't sure if it qualified, but I'll keep that in mind for future reference, apologies.
Imo the Internet was a vastly better place when everyone practiced personal responsibility and assumed that everywhere online was inherently wild and potentially unsafe unless specifically deemed otherwise, not the other way around
This is a space for RPG memes, and the meme is covering a topic regarding oversexualized female characters discussing being raped by monsters with a dildo on the table. I’m not perturbed by downvotes, but I noticed them for just asking for it to be tagged as NSFW. I’ve had some rough experiences trying to play tabletop games as a woman and would ideally not have to be reminded of poor behaviour in a space that’s supposed to be lighthearted.
I don’t expect everything to be made for me, that’s why I block a lot of ‘lewd’ content and a blanket NSFW block. I went through Barrens and CoD chat as a young woman so I know what you mean by ‘vastly better place’.
Try and have some empathy for why someone might not want to see this content.
Having empathy does not mean we have to work under the assumption that everything should cater to the most delicate of sensibilities (even if the reason for said delicate sensibility are well-justified). I am empathetic and I am sorry for the additional challenges navigating experiences like this can cause you.
I still stand by my point.
And to your point, yes tagging is a wonderful system and it does help those like yourself in your navigation. I support tagging and like OP mentioned, love systems that allow for robust tagging.
But let's be clear, that kind of tag is a very kind and wonderful courtesy, the absence of which is not malicious, it is neutral.
I don't disagree, but I also do very much appreciate a verbose tagging system (tumblr, e6, etc). Makes it easier to find what you're looking for, alongside giving people warning. Although I do think it's best to be cautious regardless.
I think tagging is a wonderful system and a great kindness posts can perform for the sake of others, but that kind is a choice and lack thereof is not inherently problematic. The absence of kindness is not meanness, it's neutrality.
I just want to be considerate, and it gets hard when the tags are black and white, instead of allowing for depth.
This I agree with, and I think your call for a "suggestive" tag is a great way to fill in a lot that missing depth.
I believe reddit had a system that allowed for communities to have their own tags, which i feel is a good way of crowdsourcing a system like that in it's abscence officially, while allowing for each community to have a level of depth appropriate to it's specific topic. Maybe I should ask around for something like that to be added to here? I know repost tags worked in a similar way on tumblr.
I responded to who you agreed with. I won’t go into it further. Just giving you a ping, and hope that you can see where I was coming from. Didn’t realise asking for a tag was such a big deal, so honestly just gonna block this community.
Hi. I think you combined comments of two separate people as coming from one person. My understanding is that OP agrees that your reasonable perspective is valid and reasonable and will do it's best to be considerate about things like that it in the future.
I'm sorry. I agreed from the perspective of being disturbed by watching spaces becoming increasingly closed off (Such as clasic Pixar films no longer permitting comments on YouTube), not from an angle of wanting to genuinely return to the kinds of communities that the internet used to be composed of. I do agree with you on tagging, I only wished to express a desire for a larger amount of tags for disambiguity, but clearly I clearly hadn't considered that in doing so, I was making the space unsafe for you. I originally left the post untagged because I hadn't thought too much of it, but I have now adjusted in accordance with your commentary. I am sincerely sorry for not working to accomodate your concerns. I'll exercise more caution in future and hope that this hasn't too harshly soured your perspective on what is, from what I can see as a visitor, a generally pleasant community.
kinda wish there was a 'suggestive' tag or something.
Indeed, while I block NSFW content, because well not what I want to see during my morning commute. This is pretty mild, so not necessarily fully blocked
Sounds like you need to spice up your commute.
Yeah, the dildo in the middle of the table pushes this one over the top
Obviously, that's a... bishop. For the big chess board in the background. It even has a suction cup so you can play vertically.
^Just^ ^wait^ ^until^ ^you^ ^see^ ^the^ ^knight.^
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FATAL fixes thi... Wait
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