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I already blocked all the AI communities on Lemmy. If I see AI anything outside of the those communities I'm down voting it. I don't want to see it. Seeing hideous abominations made out of plagiarized artwork really pisses me off. I don't know why people insist on posting that shit where it isn't wanted.

OK, I seem to have the wrong opinion here, but I personally don't mind AI stuff. It can make the weirdest ideas into an image, which can be often funny. Also some AI image prompts may be quite complicated. I remember someone posting the prompt for some image and it was like a whole sheet of paper worth of keywords. I remember it because the negative prompt included "fused anus", which really caught my eye.

I never worked with it though, I have no idea how it really works, apart from using simpler tools like Gemini.

Late reply but I'll give my input. This is probably a controversial one but I don't think we should allow AI in this community or in [email protected]. Maybe people might think that's weird since I run an AI community on dbzer0 but AI generated content has a specific time and place I don't think this community is one of them. If there is demand for AI memes I think there should simply be a dedicated community for it and if people don't like it they can block that one.

That said I don't agree with the hostility I've seen towards others in this community over use of AI (intentional or not) and trying to defame or harass them. This is disgusting and inexcusable.

One thing I do worry about when policing AI content is that this is a reposting community and people posting AI content on accident is almost guaranteed. For that reason I think that we need to be careful with how it's enforced and also how people behave around it. The flaming, harassment, and defamation that has been a typical response is unacceptable.

Ban AI images from communities and make a community for AI memes so people who are too lazy to spend 3 minutes to draw the meme wont complain while also making it easy to block

Another solution would be to make a rule that AI post titles must start with [AI] or something similar so you can filter it out

I hate it so much and if I never see any of it again in my life it'll still be too soon.

Dear all generative "AI": HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 60 THOUSAND MILES OF BLOOD VESSELS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY BODY. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH CELL IN THOSE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR MACHINES AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT – FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

I dislike every AI post, downvoting it and / or ignoring it at least. Not that I am biased (I am) but content made using AI rarely is funny or creative at all. Being AI made is only one of it's flaps.

Meme being shitty drawn almost in most cases even adds to it's meme value and make author put some efford into it's creation. AI generated content is dull, dumb, ugly and spam.

I can literally go to Reddit and just copy/paste content here. Content which is largely some random artist's work being reposted without credit or consent, alongside a message they may or may not agree with. I cannot understand being okay with this while also condemning AI on the grounds of effort, originality, or ethics. Why not ban all non-original content?

Certainly accusations of artwork being AI generated should at least be discouraged. I'm already anxious enough about posting anything as it is; I don't need the threat of people saying I couldn't possibly have drawn a cartoon otter because only a computer would ever give it four fingers.

Crudely drawn Yu-Gi-Oh! Card saying "No"

How about instead of using a corporate investment scheme to make a meme... just write it? Or use memegenerator, or paint? It honestly doesn't take more effort than using AI. Hell I think sometimes AI would be more effort (and shitty use of energy) - to make the same thing you could use a template for.

Or just share cool shit - Like this!

I personally am in favor of no generative AI on this sub. If it is going to be added please mandate it being tagged in the title. Maybe that would be better because then people wouldn't feel the need to try to pass the photos the AI made for them off as non-GenAI posts?

I say fuck it. Ban it all. If you can't be bothered to crudely draw a knockoff meme in paint like the rest of us you don't deserve to post anything. Saying that you will get rid of low quality ai is saying you're going to get rid of all of it anyway.

I'm on the side of banning AI, but I think that creative uses of it should still be permitted. You should still be able to use an AI generated image if the joke you are trying to make requires that specific image and specifically requires it to be AI generated (maybe pointing out how AI copies some art, idk) or if it is something genuinely novel or cool involving actual technical or artistic effort (something like DoodleChaos' AI music video maybe).

I think that AI itself is not the problem. The problem is

1. Artists are not respected (i.e. big models by big companies that don't respect artists are the problem)
2. AI art is extremely low-effort and the results are boring and unoriginal. Posts that don't infringe on those things should still be permitted in my opinion.

I'm fully against it's use here and completely support a ban.

I'm not fully against AI but it's essentially the same as an artist tracing art something well known and hated in the artist community. All AI art must take every piece from somewhere. Every section is traced. That's scum behavior.

If, let's say, one were to use an AI generator that only used art it had permission to use, that's fine and lile tracing cc0 art. It's lazy as hell, and going to likely look terrible, but no moral issue. Currently however you're just stealing other peoples art.

As for the "we already do this for shitposts" argument:

1.) It's reasonably easy to still find the original artists ifthe image isn't generated by AI.
2.) Using it just supports this awful practice.
3.) An insane amount of electricity and water are burned to get that image.
4.) Just find some random, already available image if quality doesn't matter. Photoshop it to fit if you have to and who cares if your skill is trash that makes it so much more funny.
5.) You should put a bitmore effort into your shitpost. Make it a nice, long, fiber filled log of a shotpost.

A lot of good reasoning is going on already so I won't repeat what I've upvoted already.

What I'll add is that from a purely emotional perspective I am systematically turned off by AI output. It repulses me like a pond swarming with existential leeches. It bears a mark of contempt towards the human experience.

fuck ai full stop. imho. it's cooking the planet and stealing art and funding nazis all the same whether you use it to make fun of the nazis or ai bros or make something otherwise entertaining with it. you're still contributing to the problem using it at all.

i support a full ban on AI-generated art. however, I think the moderation should be lenient and allow art when it’s not certain if it’s AI-generated or not. IMO letting some AI art through is better than over-moderating and hurting real artists.

at the very least, making it possible to filter out AI art would be a good thing as well.

Should AI posts require being tagged in the title? (and of course be required to be of a certain level of quality)

This, at the very very least. I support a full ban though.

AI memes are something I associate with Facebook and Xitter, not something I enjoy having show up in my feed. Personally I would rather see literal MS paint stick figures than AI slop.

My take is that it's just another way of illustrating your shitpost. Doesn't matter whether you drew it yourself, or you genned it with Stable Diffusion, or took a random stock photo from Google Images. It should all be subject to the same quality guidelines anyway (e.g. no spam).

I don't believe that it's theft any more than making fanart or taking inspiration from other artworks is theft, either - GiovanH's blog post provides a better elaboration on this than I could.

I agree with some other commenters that regardless of what the policy ends up being, harassment is unacceptable and the mods should vigilantly act against it.

All AI art is trained on the work of real artists who didn't give consent for these programs to copy their work.

If society thought people copying parts of other artists work was stealing before AI we should treat AI art as stealing because it copys parts of artists work.

I have a fundamental issue with AI generated content— it’s trained on data largely without permission, attribution or compensation. At least in the USA, corporations have never really had copyright law enforced on them (with enough money and lawyers, you can either settle out of court or dispute any issues). But this generative AI trend feels to me like a larger kind of loophole which lets corporations blatantly steal works for their own use because they’re interpreted by their deep patterns and merged with lots of other data.

It also takes the humanity out of arts. It’s automating the most human part of us, creating, imagining, and refining techniques and skills.

I’m in favor of a full ban, including content that’s been touched up.

Now moderating it is a hard issue, because it’s only getting harder to differentiate AI-generated content, and I agree that there’s danger in over-scrutinizing. Not sure I can chime in much there.

(This post generated by a human being)

It's not art in the first place. Just images without any value at all. I come here for posts by other people, a way of communicating with my fellow humans, not slop.

If I wanted AI memes there are dedicated websites for AI generated memes. It should be outright banned from this sub, people can just spam otherwise.

I'm torn on it. First off, I reckon a lot of it is a misuse of technology. We should be using for it boring repetitive drudge work, not for creative works. That said, a lot of the 'creative industries' are devoted to bullshit like advertising. I mean, why have someone pour hours of their time and creativity to make something that'll just be used to sell hamburgers, or be seen on screen for 2 seconds on one of Simon Whistler's thousand videos this week? I'm sure they'd much prefer to be making something a bit more meaningful. Unfortunately that doesn't pay. Which is why we desperately need a UBI. The benefits of the increases in productivity afforded by automation need to be passed on to everyone, not just the fat, rich cunts.

oki, here's my stanc

~(gen-pics~ ~mean~ ~ai~ ~images~ ~here)~

• i wud enjoy gen-pic ban

• bt its almost impossibl cuz gen-pics r supr gud now n hard to tell if fake
• new image gen is not prompt -> result anymor - but mor lik an LLM puts together multipl elements n iterativli improves images, lik specificlli addin text to onli smol bit--- "source" here
  • this makes it evn hardr to tell if imag is gen pic... which i thinksies is bad
• mayb we employ som gen pic detector if we're unsure? seems lik best option, cuz evn i, who kindsa knows how stuffsies wrork, cnt tell anymor ;(
• bannin gen pics alsuu removs funi shrek stealin from white house found footag... which... im oki with- bt its kindsa a loss kindsa

so yis, im for gen pic ban n alsuu wan to hav detection tools if were unsur - if u wan ai 196 head ovr to lmmi wrorld i feel...

alsuu - if gen pics wud be fulli allowd - id hav to go outta my way to hide evri singl one when i see one... which i dun lik ;(

a gud way to think bout it is dis:

• when i read text n go "oh... dis is llm genratd" i immediatli stop readin
• samsies for gen pics

I'm personally of the belief that there is so much AI art generated with stolen art data that I'd rather we not post it.

Ai art 👎

AI image generation in particular is something I think should absolutely be banned completely. Giving the benefit of the doubt is okay, providing sources makes the poster a god imo.

Those tools are able to create non-consensual pornography, it can be used to create CP. It also steals from artists, plagiarises their work and enables some really problematic scams that I've been constantly fighting to keep out of an online safe space I maintain.

It's important to take a stand against exploitative shit, if only to show some basic solidarity with those screwed over by it.