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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I really liked lemm.ee because it didn't defederate from the radical socialist and communist spectrum of political speech.

But the other issue with a bigger instance like lemm.ee going down is that as long as communities can't be moved (including users and content) to other instances, the lemmy project will fail. Because then only centralization in a few big instances is viable, and those big instances are going to become valuable and sold to plutocrats.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a disturbingly good point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, lemm.ee didn't really act as host to any major communities to begin with. So communities aren't really the loss here, and it could be that having at least a few big active communities on an instance is a key part of maintaining its long term viability.

Also, all the text posts and comments from lemm.ee will still remain on other instances. I'm sure the instance could also back up content, if the specific admin so desired to re-host.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah the biggest communities seem to be movies and television, and my guess is that they'll be gobbled up by lemmy.world. But every community migration like currently looses subscriber members, and split communities mean a lack of interaction. Social network require a critical mass, and also benefit from centralization. While federation works great for users there isn't a real solution for communities yet. There is a lot of randomness involved, like who gets to be the first to make a community might be a bad mod in the long term. For example the reddit r/climate mod is a climate skeptic. Not sure if there is any better solution.

I'm just wondering how the best design for this problem would look like. Maybe the mod of a community could have some kind of key that he can transfer to another instance and automatically transfer all the user subscriptions and link the post history with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

For me, the bigger problem with how Lemmy is federated is the way comments and posts have unique IDs for every instance. You can't easily find a comment or post from one instance on any other instance. With users, you just have /user/username@instance, what we need is /post/###@instance or /comment/###@instance. Instead, we just have /post/### and the ### is different everywhere (I think it's just sequential for every post/comment the instance federates).

Maybe there's some reason they did it this way, but it feels like the better solution is to have the original host instance decide the number, then every other instance just use their number and their @instance.

Pretty sure that was on the bug list 2 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hope you're not calling tankies radical socialists or communists. Because .ml et al are authoritarian instances, not lefty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I interact regularly with "those ml" instances and don't meet any (or not many) of people like you describe. I do believe it's mostly rumors, propaganda, cherry picking and liberal prejudice against socialists.

Do you still know what is real? The principle behind freedom of speech is about hearing dissenting voices that might tell you a truth that the mainstream won't.

In case you're curious, I also believe "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so I often support or at least not condemn countries like Russia or China or Iran in their fight against the authoritarian US Empire. I'm a realist, pacifist and materialist, we already know what the regime change sought by the US will do to the people in "shithole" countries.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The principle behind freedom of speech is about hearing dissenting voices that might tell you a truth that the mainstream won't.

I also believe "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so I often support or at least not condemn countries like Russia or China or Iran in their fight against the authoritarian US Empire.

This is why I downvoted you.

Edit: looks like I pissed off the tankies. You people are transparent, FYI.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

I'm an .ee refugee. I just hope this stuff doesn't become the norm where instances get shut down

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

End of june, lemm.ee is shutting down.

don't worry though, most communities are available on other instances.

Just make a new account on lemmy.zip, export your settings/subscriptions from lemm.ee and import them on .zip.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Yes. End of june.

[–] roserose56 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Out of loop? We had posts and posts about lemm.ee going down, how did you missed it?
Anyway, end of June lemm.ee is going down, which means it won't be accessible! If you want to access lemmy after that, you have to find a new instance. Have a look here to search for a new instance.

Don't forget to export your profile settings from settings > Import/Export Settings > export.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Been busy with moving and stuff. This is the first I saw anything. Thanks for the info.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm sorry but the best is dbzero. Lemm.ee was a damn good instance too though

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it adds to our mystique that not even our regulars can spell it correctly :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I will now try to misspell it in a new way every time 🫡

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

The lemm.ee admin is a shit hot developer though, his instance was generally more robust than all the others, and he helped other instances when they had various problems. It's a shame he wasn't the lead lemmy developer, although I'm sure he doesn't have the time for such a big undertaking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I saw that, which is why I allowed myself to gas it up here.

Again, just to be clear, no disrespect meant to lemm.ee refugees or the former admin, I just wanted to rep my instance to any potential former lemm.ee users because I like it here !

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So what about all the valuble content in the Communities posted?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Ootl, Whats piefed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Posts that propagated to other communities will stay on servers.

Images will break though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

NOoooooooo :(

lemm.ee has been hands down my favourite instance, it's genuinely depressing that it's going.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm tearing up :'(

Thx for all the severing!

<3

[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago

Thank you to all the admins and donators who kept lemm.ee going.

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