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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No intent to do that to the player...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Elbow to the ear and step on the ankle not a red? What the fuck are you smoking?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see so many people here say intent doesn’t matter, and maybe it doesn’t, but shouldn’t it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's more about being reckless than intent isn’t it? You can speed through a busy street with no intention of harming people but you’re nevertheless being reckless and disregarding the risk if that makes any sense.

Rashford had no right lifting his foot high to cover the space and it's a red all day long imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

As a Liverpool fan who is loving the outcome of this game, this should defo not be a red

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yet Bruno G was ignored for an even worst slap on the back of Jorginho’a head!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That is a fucking joke of a red card

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What's the actual rule here? No mal intent = no red? Or any studs above the ankle = red?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

not sure why this is controversial. any studs up challenge is an automatic red. reminds me of that Ibrahimovic Red vs i think Manu U when he was on PSG in a RO16 game.

im sure there are loads of others like this given a red. intent doesn't matter, just the outcome, which is always an injured player.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Very harsh red that, obviously looks terrible but he's clearly trying to shield the ball and gets unlucky to stamp the player. Red card can be justified if you say he's not in control but I just feel he is but got unlucky. I'd prefer these kinds of fouls to just be a yellow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That’s a harsh red

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This basically happened to Marcelo. Completely innocent move but with horrible results. It's a red.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Tbh it's a clear red to me. I get it's not intentional and he's trying to shield the ball but he absolutely does not need to over-extend his leg to that extent, it's very reckless and could easily have broken the other guy's leg. You need to have better spatial awareness and control your leg extension.

It was totally possible to shield the ball without putting his studs on the other guy's ankle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It’s a red card offence by the rules, but there is literally nothing he could’ve done differently, just extremely unfortunate outcome. It’s not even a dangerous play, it’s him planting his foot down as he is shielding the ball, the play itself is made 100 times a game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Basically same incident as Curtis Jones red card against Spurs, never a red, but I wonder if Man United fans who called Curtis' red card as stonewall red card stayed consistent and called this one a stonewall red card too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

He remembered Bruno earning a penalty for United by stamping Konsa the same way a few seasons ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I would normally feel sympathy but because of Gary Neville’s comments I will just say HOLD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Really don't get these red cards for accidental contact when they let elbows and off the ball incidents go unpunished.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yellow at the most.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Just when you think r/soccer can't have worse opinions than they had after the Newcastle Arsenal game, they come out saying that this wasn't a red card.

The reasoning they put behind this opinion is equally hilarious

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Not a man u fan - was this on field or reviewed? Because its clear he wasn't even looking at the player so it's not intentional. He has possession of the ball too. Yes it's bad but it seems harsh a straight red.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

At most this is a yellow

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Fucking disgrace

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It looks really ugly, but not sure I’d give that a red. Doesn’t appear to lunge aggressively or be in an unnatural position. Harsh call

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That’s fucking horrific. That’s questionable if it’s even a foul let alone a card. If I was ETH I would’ve accused the refs of cheating straight up and copped the fine. That’s ludicrous and exactly the sort of thing VAR is meant to prevent. All time howler here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Dirty ankle breaking scumbag

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Holy shit. At first I thought the challenge on #30 was the red but that actual red is worse. Doesn't seem intentional in the slightest and might look worse slowed down but Rashford seriously could have broken his ankle

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Never a red

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Leg breaker.. straight to jail

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

karma for going after goldbridge

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Intentional or accidental, doesn't matter. Clear red card. Correct decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If that’s not a red then Cristian Romero didn’t deserve a red

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

excuse me WTF

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

it looks terrible but there's no way he meant that it's never a red card in a million years

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It’s a lack of awareness from Rashford. He doesn’t have the space or time to shield as wide of a space as he’s attempting to. Unfortunate because he clearly doesn’t mean to tackle, but he’s gotta be more careful

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ridiculous decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like the meaning of a "red card" is just completely different now than it was before. Intent doesn't matter at all anymore, instead if the tackle looks bad and might have caused an injury, it's a red.

It just overlooks the fact that this is a contact sport. There's no way to play it that completely removes the risk of injury.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What I don't understand is, how come they can go back after the play (that went to Hojlund's shot) continued here, when they couldn't for the VAR fiasco from Diaz's (not-)goal?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like these "Orange" card situations should have a rule where the Player is subbed but the team still gets to keep 11 men on the pitch. A red card is too harsh (Though the correct call within the rules) but a yellow is not enough as it was still dangerous play, whether intentional or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What’s Rashford meant to do here? We can’t be giving red for this, it’s a nasty accident that’s all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It’s peak delusion to think this isn’t a red. He lifts his foot and stamps down on the other players ankle, it doesn’t matter if he intended it or not. If Curtis Jones tackle was a red, then this is too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This was a red. The law is pretty clear on endangering another player. Intent, shielding the ball, whatever other crock pot conspiracy theory is meaningless.

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