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Elbow to the ear and step on the ankle not a red? What the fuck are you smoking?
I see so many people here say intent doesn’t matter, and maybe it doesn’t, but shouldn’t it?
It's more about being reckless than intent isn’t it? You can speed through a busy street with no intention of harming people but you’re nevertheless being reckless and disregarding the risk if that makes any sense.
Rashford had no right lifting his foot high to cover the space and it's a red all day long imo.
As a Liverpool fan who is loving the outcome of this game, this should defo not be a red
Yet Bruno G was ignored for an even worst slap on the back of Jorginho’a head!
That is a fucking joke of a red card
What's the actual rule here? No mal intent = no red? Or any studs above the ankle = red?
not sure why this is controversial. any studs up challenge is an automatic red. reminds me of that Ibrahimovic Red vs i think Manu U when he was on PSG in a RO16 game.
im sure there are loads of others like this given a red. intent doesn't matter, just the outcome, which is always an injured player.
Very harsh red that, obviously looks terrible but he's clearly trying to shield the ball and gets unlucky to stamp the player. Red card can be justified if you say he's not in control but I just feel he is but got unlucky. I'd prefer these kinds of fouls to just be a yellow.
That’s a harsh red
This basically happened to Marcelo. Completely innocent move but with horrible results. It's a red.
Tbh it's a clear red to me. I get it's not intentional and he's trying to shield the ball but he absolutely does not need to over-extend his leg to that extent, it's very reckless and could easily have broken the other guy's leg. You need to have better spatial awareness and control your leg extension.
It was totally possible to shield the ball without putting his studs on the other guy's ankle.
It’s a red card offence by the rules, but there is literally nothing he could’ve done differently, just extremely unfortunate outcome. It’s not even a dangerous play, it’s him planting his foot down as he is shielding the ball, the play itself is made 100 times a game.
Basically same incident as Curtis Jones red card against Spurs, never a red, but I wonder if Man United fans who called Curtis' red card as stonewall red card stayed consistent and called this one a stonewall red card too.
He remembered Bruno earning a penalty for United by stamping Konsa the same way a few seasons ago.
I would normally feel sympathy but because of Gary Neville’s comments I will just say HOLD
Really don't get these red cards for accidental contact when they let elbows and off the ball incidents go unpunished.
Yellow at the most.
Just when you think r/soccer can't have worse opinions than they had after the Newcastle Arsenal game, they come out saying that this wasn't a red card.
The reasoning they put behind this opinion is equally hilarious
Not a man u fan - was this on field or reviewed? Because its clear he wasn't even looking at the player so it's not intentional. He has possession of the ball too. Yes it's bad but it seems harsh a straight red.
At most this is a yellow
Fucking disgrace
It looks really ugly, but not sure I’d give that a red. Doesn’t appear to lunge aggressively or be in an unnatural position. Harsh call
That’s fucking horrific. That’s questionable if it’s even a foul let alone a card. If I was ETH I would’ve accused the refs of cheating straight up and copped the fine. That’s ludicrous and exactly the sort of thing VAR is meant to prevent. All time howler here.
Dirty ankle breaking scumbag
Holy shit. At first I thought the challenge on #30 was the red but that actual red is worse. Doesn't seem intentional in the slightest and might look worse slowed down but Rashford seriously could have broken his ankle
Never a red
Leg breaker.. straight to jail
karma for going after goldbridge
Intentional or accidental, doesn't matter. Clear red card. Correct decision.
If that’s not a red then Cristian Romero didn’t deserve a red
excuse me WTF
it looks terrible but there's no way he meant that it's never a red card in a million years
It’s a lack of awareness from Rashford. He doesn’t have the space or time to shield as wide of a space as he’s attempting to. Unfortunate because he clearly doesn’t mean to tackle, but he’s gotta be more careful
Ridiculous decision.
I feel like the meaning of a "red card" is just completely different now than it was before. Intent doesn't matter at all anymore, instead if the tackle looks bad and might have caused an injury, it's a red.
It just overlooks the fact that this is a contact sport. There's no way to play it that completely removes the risk of injury.
What I don't understand is, how come they can go back after the play (that went to Hojlund's shot) continued here, when they couldn't for the VAR fiasco from Diaz's (not-)goal?
I feel like these "Orange" card situations should have a rule where the Player is subbed but the team still gets to keep 11 men on the pitch. A red card is too harsh (Though the correct call within the rules) but a yellow is not enough as it was still dangerous play, whether intentional or not.
What’s Rashford meant to do here? We can’t be giving red for this, it’s a nasty accident that’s all
It’s peak delusion to think this isn’t a red. He lifts his foot and stamps down on the other players ankle, it doesn’t matter if he intended it or not. If Curtis Jones tackle was a red, then this is too.
This was a red. The law is pretty clear on endangering another player. Intent, shielding the ball, whatever other crock pot conspiracy theory is meaningless.