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[–] [email protected] 154 points 6 months ago (27 children)

this is the exact reason why exile, excommunication, shunning, disfellowshipping, and all the rest are so effective. and a big reason people go along with glaringly wrong bullshit

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (16 children)

And the internet has given the folks with wrongness in their heart an out to find communities who will act as a bulwark against internal progress. No one around you likes you because you're an asshole? Go on 8chan and get validated

[–] BlemboTheThird 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, it can achieve the exact same thing for people who belong to an irl community that insists on being wrong, allowing them to find better information and a group to validate it. That's certainly the vision people had of the internet back in the 90s. Too bad it hasn't been anywhere near as ubiquitously a force of fact-checking as they envisioned back then, but I'd be willing to bet it's been a stronger positive force than negative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I mean. Yeah. That's the thing. A lot of us have found solace online from our lived oppression. There is a degree to which when you realize there's a core human need to connect that people fill going to some of the bad spaces online you start to realize that bad things happen in human history because we aren't addressing the true problems. Its hard to say what to do once you realize that. I'm still grappling with that. But yeah... People turn to authoritarianism because they see the current thing isn't working. My view is there's too much top down authority. Their view is there's not enough. Just... Something I'm processing

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