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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (46 children)

Honestly I'm starting to hate this narrative

For one, by far the most polluting companies are state owned coal companies in China and India. Then other state owned fossil fuel companies and then private fossil fuel companies.

So all those companies are just power generation. So it's not like they can just stop, people need the electricity.

And it's not like nothing is being done either. Like by far the biggest polluter is China's coal industry, making up 25% of global emissions, but China is also THE global leader on clean energy investment. They are currently building more nuclear power plants than the entire rest of the world has, they are making the biggest most powerfull wind turbines in the world, etc.

And if people would stop consuming cheap, disposable shite from China, then they wouldn't use so much electricity, so would burn less coal and also you wouldn't make a bunch of shit that's just going to end up in a landfill.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I hate the narrative too. Just people avoiding responsibility and complaining instead of doing what they can and should.

Obviously our individual actions matter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Obviously they should and do, but pretending the average human creates anything compared to oil and gas companies, coal plants, big tech, etc is boot-lickingly ludicrous

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

My point is, why do you think those oil and gas companies or big tech exist? Because there is a market for it because of consumer behaviour.

A profitable oil company is never going to just close itself down for the sake of morals. And even if they did, a different oil company is just going to take over their market share.

The only way we stop oil companies is by making them unprofitable, either through voting for legislators that will tax them or sanction them, or by taking away their demand.

And while your individual demand is tiny, the same as you single individual vote in an election. It won't have an affect by itself, but if lots of people band together we can make change.

And the first step of that is acknowledging it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These companies exist and pollute because people are buying what they sell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No. They exist because people buy what they sell. They pollute because they lack meaningful regulations on their practices.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If nobody buys from a polluting company, they die. Or adapt, but usually they die.

Be responsible for your own actions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

And everyone knows that there is always another option. There are no monopolies in this or any country and there's always an alternative to your electricity, your food, etc. It must be so nice for you to live in a world with such a plethora of choice!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My mate whinge all day about bad companies ruining the planet and drinks that Danone smart water bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well soon he will be smart enough to stop drinking it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, same people that get stressed about climate change then fly on jets without even considering the 100 liters/hour the plane burns to fly them and their luggage.

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