Lukewarm take: mods had valid grievances, but were dumb as fuck to unilaterally make a major decision without even consulting the community beforehand, which is definitely worse imo.

It reminds me of so many subreddits where overactive mods decide they know what’s best for their subreddit and impose rules that would never pass a basic yes/no poll, demonstrating they don’t actually care about the community. Mods are supposed to be janitors (not an insult, just statement of fact), but too often act with the presumed arrogance of “leaders”.

Edit to add: this is what the mods should have done:

Make a stickied thread with examples of users being banned or comments being removed unjustly
Ask users if the above justifies moving to a new host, and if so ask which one

It’s that simple

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mods are supposed to be janitors (not an insult, just statement of fact), but too often act with the presumed arrogance of “leaders”.

Yes exactly. I have no stake in the 169 thing, but this applies universally. We don't need you to remove comments that "don't contribute to the discussion". We don't need to hear whether you think someone is "participating in bad faith" (the fuck does that even mean!?). We need you to remove spam and rule-breaking content, and ban repeat offenders. That's literally it. We can put up with some bullshit because after all mods are unpaid volunteers who don't owe anything to anyone, but at some point enough is enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I agree, janitors is the correct description here. It's not an insult.

I don't know that we ever remove comments for "not contributing to the discussion" unless I'm just not seeing it. Ironically, our concern about some of Ada's bans had to do with her saying that they were "participating in bad faith" which is why we asked for a more specific rules from her.

Not defending our recently actions as a group, just curious if anyone was actually banning for "not contributing to discussion" or if it was more of a random example.

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