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I thought this article was interesting, in that I am immediately suspicious of the motives of some of people quoted. The conclusion runs counter to what I want to be true, and I'm curious what other people make of it.

Also men: Do you actually feel attacked? I'm not sure I've ever seen someone criticised for like being strong and capable, or a good carpenter, or a protective dad or whatever. Is this a real thing? or just something that is used as cover like the traditional values vs violent misogyny terminology.

P.S. Thinking there are hordes of ravenous cancellers waiting in the wings is extremely funny to me. Not exactly beating the allegations that listening to Jo Rogan damages your perception of reality.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (29 children)

Do you actually feel attacked? I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone criticised for like being strong and capable

I don't get it, where is the link between being attacked and being strong and capable?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (28 children)

“middle path of masculinity”, between the “emasculated” and “browbeaten” male of the far left and the Tate-like women haters and “pickup artists” of the far right.

“We want to foster the good side [of masculinity],” he says. “Which is being on the mission, wanting to be strong, being something of a warrior, but also being the good man, the loving husband, the loving partner, the good father”

“There is a vitriol against that idea[...]"

If you ask most people who allegedly want to brow beat men what "good masculinity" is you would probably get stuff like:

  • strong and helpful
  • patient
  • skilled
  • protects people
  • Loving and attentive
  • Takes care of body and mind
  • Good in a crisis

This guy is claiming men are attacked for wanting to be strong, loving, a good father, and 'something of a warrior'

Idk what the last means but I basically only see men attacked for

  • treating women as less then men
  • using violence to solve problems that could be talked out
  • using violence on the vulnerable

Which uh, notably aren't in his list of reason men are attacked. So I want to ask what men's opinions are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"browbeaten” male of the far left

This line really stood out to me. Have they met anyone on the left in their lives?

It's like they have some imaginary idea of what a left-winger looks and acts like in their minds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The left doesn't want you to know this but 100% of leftist women are dommes

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