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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I'm a different person, that was my first comment here.

The way I see it, the discussion was about permitting others to commit acts which one considers immoral.

In the case of a vegan that might mean allowing someone else to eat meat, but the ethical dilemma is the very same as allowing a cannibal to eat a child. Does one have any right to intervene in their daily habits and societal norms, just because you think it's wrong? If yes, why shouldn't the vegan do the same?

I will say that I can't claim to be a vegan myself. I just found your logic flawed.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

If one considers the act immoral, yet said act is legal- then one has no business telling the person that they shouldn’t do said act. It’s not their business regardless of what it is.

Child abuse doesn’t apply here.
Rape doesn’t apply here.
Apples don’t apply here.
Oranges don’t apply here.

It’s about food. And it’s only considered immoral by those that believe that it is. And that belief is not an obligation to anyone.

And if I need any further proof to my point, look no further than the responses to my original comment. I’m getting hammered by people telling me I’m wrong and comparing the eating of meat to rape.

This was the exact point I made in my original comment. People need to stay out of the decisions of others. It’s not their business.

I’m done with this discussion now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

If one considers the act immoral, yet said act is legal- then one has no business telling the person that they shouldn’t do said act. It’s not their business regardless of what it is.

Do you really not see the problems with this? This discussion may be about eating meat, but you just made a general statement about when it is and isn't okay to tell people that what they're doing is wrong.

This is a literal defense of slavery. I'm not even misinterpreting it or taking it to a logical conclusion like that other comment I left, you are straight up saying that abolitionists are wrong when they tell slave owners that they shouldn't own slaves if slavery is legal in their region.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah… you’re definitely misinterpreting it. And again, like everyone’s else- arguing false equivalency.

This is not at all like defending slavery. This is telling people to butt-out of the dietary decisions that have nothing to do with you.

If you want an argument that IS similar…

What telling others what they should and shouldn’t eat is not u like those that presume it’s their responsibly to tell other who they can and cannot love.

Someone eating cheeseburgers has absolutely no impact on your life and doesn’t hurt you in the least bit. Just like who someone decides to love has no impact on anyone else.

If you don’t like someone’s diet, that’s a YOU problem. And this goes for both sides of the argument. Though I don’t see any meat-eaters whining about this.

Imagine that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Someone eating cheeseburgers has absolutely no impact on your life and doesn’t hurt you in the least bit. Just like who someone decides to love has no impact on anyone else.

You have to understand that the logic you are using here can be used to justify a bunch of awful things. The government banning gay marriage also has absolutely no impact on my life and doesn't hurt me the least bit, but I can still argue for the rights and wellbeing of people and animals who aren't like me.

And I know, you never talked about gay marriage, you only ever talked about dietary decisions in this thread. You have to understand that the problem is with the underlying logic that you use to come to your conclusions about people's dietary decisions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago
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