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Mozilla says its new Firefox terms don’t give it ownership of your data (www.theverge.com)

submitted 13 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Misunderstanding of legalese may have lead a lot of us down the wrong road.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (17 children)

That's not going to keep them from selling it.

Their defense is the need to keep Firefox "financially viable", but if that keeps them from being able to broadly state that they won't sell our data, it's better to use a fork that prevents Mozilla from accessing that data in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 12 hours ago (16 children)

Right? The license literally says they have a right to everything - everything we do in Firefox, and that we grant them full access to it. The shit is that? I don't need a law degree to read and understand that.

No, Mozilla, you don't have permission to see everything I write and type. You don't have permission to see the images I upload or even as far as I'm concerned you don't have the rights to see what webpages I visit. The most you get is when I (used to) submit a bug report.

The browser is the fundamental most basic access to the internet. I get that there's potential for data brokering profit, but it is a slap in the face to everyone who used firefox for privacy reasons.

They're trying to backpedal now:

Friday’s post additionally provides some context about why the company has “stepped away from making blanket claims that ‘We never sell your data.’” Mozilla says that “in some places, the LEGAL definition of ‘sale of data’ is broad and evolving,”and that “the competing interpretations of do-not-sell requirements does leave many businesses uncertain about their exact obligations and whether or not they’re considered to be ‘selling data.’”

See, you don't need to ever sell my data - like ever. There is zero reason for a browser to sell my data. I don't care about the backpedaling.

I spent 20 years on Firefox. Through the good years and the bad, when it was slow and clunky compared to the new shiny chrome through the bad PR. This is the straw that broke the camel's back. For now I'm on Librewolf - then who knows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

The technicality is likely that the application on your PC called Firefox is considered to be Mozilla, so of course the application needs to see everything you write

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