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Yud follows up Sammy Boy's AI-Generated "Metafiction" (awful.systems)
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XCancel: https://xcancel.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1900247885142434220

Context: https://xcancel.com/sama/status/1899535387435086115

If I had a nickel for every "metafictional" "short" "story" a promptbro shat into existence on Twitter, I'd have two nickels. That's not much, but its two nickels too fucking many.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Lol, Altman's AI generated purple prose slop was so bad even Eliezer called it out (as opposed to make a doomer-hype point):

Perhaps you have found some merit in that obvious slop, but I didn't; there was entropy, cliche, and meaninglessness poured all over everything like shit over ice cream, and if there were cherries underneath I couldn't taste it for the slop.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

the cherries metaphor hinges on him willingly having eaten shit covered ice cream

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey, no kink-shaming.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"No kink-shaming!"

"But I'm talking about Rationalists."

"... OK, one kink-shaming."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Also, Yud's kink is literally rape^1^, isn't it? Role playing non-consensual situations is fine and all, but this is a subculture where reporting sexual harassment is considered a possible infohazard^2^, and surely the utilitarian calculus in on the side of letting rationalists who do important work on existential risks have a go at you, imagine how many multiplujillion far future virtual entities of minimum moral status that might save.

Fuck a cult.

  1. He's openly declared himself a sexual sadist and writes stuff like this, and also math pets.

  2. Occupational Infohazards

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In this case, in Ziz's previous interactions with central community leaders, these leaders encouraged Ziz to seriously consider that, for various reasons including Ziz's willingness to reveal information (in particular about the statutory rapes alleged by miricult.com in possible worlds where they actually happened), she is likely to be "net negative" as a person impacting the future. An implication is that, if she does not seriously consider whether certain ideas that might have negative effects if spread (including reputational effects) are "infohazards", Ziz is irresponsibly endangering the entire future, which contains truly gigantic numbers of potential people.

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