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Agreed, but then amongst the vacuum Russia aims at Europe, China takes Taiwan, and off we go.
Europe needs to step the fuck up right now. Don't they know that appeasement doesn't work? Are they going to continue standing on the sidelines for years while Ukraine fights on their own?
They can also stop this war. Europe can take action. Lead the world while the US has its head up its own ass.
Europe does take action.
Also, Russia is in no state right now to start a military attack on Europe more than they already do right now (i.e., cutting undersea cables, troll farming and election manipulation etc.). Russia can't handle Ukraine with half-assed support from Europe/US, how could they handle Ukraine plus the rest of Europe?
They (i.e., the Russian government) are a fucking joke and no threat to anyone.
You had me until last part. Belittling level of threat that Russia and its allies pose is not good. Not good at all. Belittling encourages apathy and sense of superiority, which we cant afford.
I recommend ”Autocracy, inc.” book from last year 2024 by Anne Applebaum (which won a pulitzer) to you, all americans, europeans and anyone who actually cares about democracy, human rights.
Sadly, Russia and its allies are no joke. They are a threat we must take seriously.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/183932735
Thanks, I'll check that out. My current perception of the issue is quite the opposite, though: Europe has been in a shock state, not knowing what to do, because they were scared of Russia. Nobody dared confronting them. Ukraine is one exception, and as it turned out, the Russian military (apart from their nukes of course) is a joke. Turkey did that a few years ago as well, when a Russian fighter jet entered their air space for a few seconds and they just shot it down.
My current reading of the situation is that the fear of Russia is more threatening than Russia's actual power.
I somewhat agree.
I still say, be cautious with underestimating them. Russia may not have pure strength alone to oppose whole EU but … thats the thing, they and other dictators around the world are NOT alone and they are actively helping each other. Wherever there might be a tiny ray of hope of a dictatorship falling and becoming a democracy, they invite foreign ”experts” to help crush opposition. They have been interfering with elections and trying to sow discord in west for decades (just look at US) and they have found lots of allies in greedy businessmen of the west.
Now that they dont anymore have to focus on US so much with their influencing and misinformation campaigns, guess whos next? EU.
What once was a good thing, internet anonymity, is turning out to be at least a double edged sword thanks to troll farms… and now that AI is rapidly advancing and coming to our everyday lifes, its only gonna get worse.
Ukraine is not only fighting against Russia but Russia that has its back covered by China, India, Iran etc.
Please, seriously, read the book I mentioned.