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I've been working for a few years in the field. All the places I worked at were using those two, getting partnerships, certifications, etc.

The ranges of services they offer is quite crazy. Performance monitoring? Here's a tool. Certificate management? Here's a tool. DDoS protection? Here's a tool. All of them integrated and accessible via command line interface.

AWS and Azure built their expertise over decades, and have financial and technical resources that any European company can only dream of.

Those two platforms are just very good at what they do, it will probably be difficult for a European alternative to emerge. The financial investment would need to be substantial, and the European platform wouldn't probably reach maturity before a few years.

Thoughts?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unrealistic near term. Many many billions have been invested over a long time.

But do you need the same? I don't think so. Most people only use a handful of services: VMs, FAAS, DBs, VPC, CDN, WAF, Object Store, DNS, maybe managed kubernetes.

This level of service is attainable. However what is lacking is the mindset. EU cloud documentation is horrible. Hetzner has core services that are not covered by IaC tooling and are completely deaf to complaints. They just.. still don't really give a fuck.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Good point about the mindset.