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[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago (31 children)

If you eat factory meat, you're doing something morally wrong that can't be justified.

And the vast majority of people who get defensive about that, deep down know what they are doing is morally dubious at best, but they can't/won't admit it, so they lash out at vegans/vegetarians instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (24 children)

Guess what, most if not all veggies and vegans are also doing something morally dubious at best.

Factory farming, extensive farming, they’re all bad for the soil, bad for native wildlife, bad for native plants. The societal impacts of factory farming are also not small. In the end, the moral lines people draw are mostly at different places, neither is undoubtedly better than the other.

As it currently stands, the morally correct option for food production would probably be for a large amount of the population to starve. That, of course, is also not entirely morally correct.

Disclaimer: I am personally omnivorous. I have a son and many other relatives and friends who are or were vegetarians or vegans. I love a lot of veggie food and used to frequent vegan restaurants, so I have absolutely zero qualms with it.

I have personally tried to give up meat twice, once for 6 months and once for a year. On both cases my health suffered massively for it, and I went back to eating meat. I had a cousin who was, for many years, a hardcore vegetarian. She was also of the opinion that eating meat was wrong. A few years ago she reintroduced fish in her diet to overcome health issues after fighting them for years. Most symptoms subsided in a handful of months. I believe she now also eats beef, although infrequently and in small quantities.

I’m sorry to be that guy but reality is more complex than whatever moral line any one of us would like to draw. You’re not wrong but it would behoove you to acquire some nuance on your thoughts.

[–] jerkface 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Amazing how many plants rights advocates pop up every time someone mentions the cruelty and violence being endured by farm animals. And no other time.

[–] howrar 1 points 2 days ago

It's the only time where it's relevant to the conversation, no? Why would you bring it up anywhere else?

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