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Why are you trying to make them defend Khrushchev? It's hard to find someone who agrees with anything else the guy did, but sending in the tanks to put down an uprising co-opted by nazis is pretty unambiguously good, though history tells us he didn't do enough to purge the Hungarian right.
Khrushchev did literally nothing wrong. Khrushchev spent his entire time in office being the only person trying to build international communism, and basically every single good thing that happened from the 50s and until he was ousted can be traced to him.
I am the corn stan. And unless you hate Cuba and you think apartheid and colonialism was the tits you better start putting some respect on his name.
I happen to hold the controversial opinion that siding with the great Satan and fascists is bad, and supporting decolonial movements and socialist movements around the world is good. Which means Nikita is literally the only good leader of a major power since the 1950s.
OK, two things he did right.
The fallout from the sinosoviet split and destalinization can't be overstated though.
I think they can be overblamed on him. The corncob in charge may have fucked up majorly with regards to destalinzation. I'll even grant you that it's 100% a bad decision and 100% his fuck up. We can even pretend he was the only guy who wanted to do and it was never gonna happen without him and he is entirely to blame. That does not in any way justify splitting the international communist movement to go play around with the US, a flawed socialist country is still better than the great Satan
Claiming they sided with fascists is fucking absurd. Don't spread this revisionist shit all you're doing is reinforcing anticommunism.
Are we saying that the khmer rouge are not fascists? Because I don't feel comfortable calling them anything but fascist.
I read your comment as referring to the soviets not china. I still don't understand why you even brought them into it though. It reads like trying to cause as much drama as possible.
First off, obviously. Secondly I'm bringing in China because someone mentioned the split. I can't actually follow my own thread since it won't show me who replied to who except the newest post. Also why would I mention any bad things the Soviets did when I'm arguing that he didn't do anything wrong.
God I hate this bug.
I think they're referring to Chinese support of the Khmer Rouge. Obviously they're not the ones who engineered the coup that put Pol Pot's faction in power (see America), but not siding with the USSR and Vietnam against them was a p big L.
I didn't read it as that because it's a really weird non sequitur. Like someone just dumping as many controversial things into the thread as possible.
Correct, this isn't a serious discussion, I don't genuinely disagree with everything Kruschev did other than sending the tanks into Hungary and supporting Cuba, nor attribute everything the USSR did during that time to Kruschev; I imagine H3doubehockeysticks has more nuanced takes on the USSR and China.