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#NoMoreGoogle: Tutanota is one of the few services that does not use Google Push. (tutanota.com)

submitted 3 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (12 children)

Imap email services have supported email push notifications for years, isn't it true? Why an email app would require google push at all? Thunderbird has supported push notifications on the desktop for years, which are not related at all with GCM. And K9 supports as well use imap push notifications, which are not related to Google at all. So I'm unclear whether this sound more like marketing, than a real motivation to use Tutanota. There might be other motivations to use Tutanota, but if using imap (avoiding big companies apps, which more probably rely on GCM, like gmail, hotmail, outlook, yahoo, mac, and so on) pretty much any email client should be able to just get away with imap push, which has been supported for years.

https://k9mail.app/documentation/faq.html#anchor14

https://superuser.com/questions/1066596/does-mozilla-thunderbird-support-push-notifications

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-IMAP

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

If emails are encrypted at rest, as in the cases of Tutanota or ProtonMail, IMAP cannot be used as it is. In fact ProtonMail offers a bridge app for desktop, which interacts with PM servers, decrypt the emails and offers a local IMAP server so you can use Thunderbird, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

ohh well, Thunderbird, KMail and K9 allow encrypting. Some people say that very few people use GPG to encrypt emails, and one can only encrypt to others also using GPG. But guess what, the same is with Proton and Tutanota, if you email to users out their services, it's exactly the same, :(

But encryption is a different argument than non using google push notifications. It's sort of a different topic... And unfortunately, I haven't found a good standard way to get privacy on emails. To me, using any service, as long as not big companies, would do just fine, if you encrypt with those close to you, helping them setup GPG for encryption... But again, that's a totally different discussion, :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Why is that? IMAP push works well with K-9 Mail and OpenKeychain on my smartphone.

I don't need proprietary encryption since it is useless.

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