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Great examples. Because blocking roads and mildly inconveniencing people that can demand change is almost the same as killing animals and children. Yes the line has to be drawn somewhere, and it’s between those two things and very close to one of them.
But again, what way that hasn’t been tried would be ok in your book? Asking people nicely?
Read the top comment in this post again.
Why the snark? I literally used the term "comically heinous" myself to describe the examples. I am aware they are extreme, it was to demonstrate my point...
So we disagree on where that line should be drawn. And it comes down to the fact that you think blocking traffic is "mildly inconveniencing". I would say: how the fuck do you know? You don't know what's going on in the lives of those people.
Or any number of scenarios. If YOU were in any of these situations, what would you think of the people blocking the road? Somehow I don't think you would be so understanding when it happens to you personally.
I think my position is clear. I'm OK with any form of protest that actually advances the cause behind the protest and I am not OK with any form of protest that is counter-productive against the cause of the protest. I started out my comments by saying what standing in a road accomplishes, and so far all you've really said is "uh, well nothing else has worked so why not?". That really isn't good enough.
And exactly what kind of protest is that? Again you still haven’t answered my question and more and more it seems that there is no such protest so we will all live miserable lives in the future but hey, at least people weren’t bothered those few times.
Also you can block roads and let emergency vehicles through. Accidents happen, roads get blocked for a variety of reasons on a daily basis. If people used cars less they would be less congestioned, do you also use that argument there?
Finally, people do die of climate change. Everyday and it’s not a small amount. Consider that on the other side of the equation whenever you make one.
Either way I’m calling this convo. Have a nice day and weekend. Hope it’s not too hot wherever you are.
lol I posted first! You responded to me. I was the one posing the question: What is the benefit of blocking the road? Any discussion outside of that scope is moving the goalpost and I won't entertain it. So far I've seen you propose a grand total of zero benefits so I'm just going to assume there are none.
My first comment literally responds to the purpose/benefit of blocking a road. But for that you’d need to know how to read.
But I agree, let’s end it here