this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2023
15 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

191 readers
1 users here now

This magazine is dedicated to discussions on the latest developments, trends, and innovations in the world of technology. Whether you are a tech enthusiast, a developer, or simply curious about the latest gadgets and software, this is the place for you. Here you can share your knowledge, ask questions, and engage in discussions on topics such as artificial intelligence, robotics, cloud computing, cybersecurity, and more. From the impact of technology on society to the ethical considerations of new technologies, this category covers a wide range of topics related to technology. Join the conversation and let's explore the ever-evolving world of technology together!

founded 2 years ago
 

The New York Times is suing OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement, claiming the two companies built their AI models by “copying and using millions” of the publication’s articles and now “directly compete” with its content as a result.

As outlined in the lawsuit, the Times alleges OpenAI and Microsoft’s large language models (LLMs), which power ChatGPT and Copilot, “can generate output that recites Times content verbatim, closely summarizes it, and mimics its expressive style.” This “undermine[s] and damage[s]” the Times’ relationship with readers, the outlet alleges, while also depriving it of “subscription, licensing, advertising, and affiliate revenue.”

The complaint also argues that these AI models “threaten high-quality journalism” by hurting the ability of news outlets to protect and monetize content. “Through Microsoft’s Bing Chat (recently rebranded as “Copilot”) and OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Defendants seek to free-ride on The Times’s massive investment in its journalism by using it to build substitutive products without permission or payment,” the lawsuit states.

The full text of the lawsuit can be found here

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (40 children)

How so?

The trained model includes vast swathes of copyrighted material. It's the rights holders who get to decide whether someone can use it.

Just because it makes it inconvenient or harder for someone to train an AI model does not justify wholesale stealing.

A lot of models are even trained on large numbers of pirated material like books downloaded from pirate sites etc. I guarantee you OpenAI and others didn't even buy a lot of the material they use to train the AI models on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I guarantee you OpenAI and others didn't even buy a lot of the material they use to train the AI models on.

My hunch is that if they did actually buy or properly license that material, they would have been bankrupt before the first version of ChatGPT came online. And if that's true, then OpenAI owes it's entire existence to it's piracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Its not piracy to just webscrap everything for data...

There isn't a person sitting around and pirating shit, its a Algorithm that takes everything from the internet it can reach.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not piracy to just webscrap everything for data…

Yes it is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. It's publicly available, piracy would be to use stuff that isn't publicly available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Publicly available =/= public domain.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (36 replies)