Would love to see how this meme would look if democrat presidents ever got a democrat majority... You know... Like republicans keep getting thanks to voter suppression and gerrymandering.
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Yeah like that time Obama had it?
Man I've been debunking that argument for years now. Yay propaganda power.
So the long story short is, he had the count on paper, but a series of different members from his party being incapacitated due to injury, illness, and old age, as well as a few DINOs (Democrats in name only) who preferred to vote with the Republicans, meant he never really had an actual majority on the hill. But yes on paper.
Right, because Manchin is not a democrat when it matters.
There's already an enlighten centrism lemmy community?
Republicans: block basically every attempt at social goods making their way into public hands
Centrists: "Bro why are democrats ass at governing"
Centrists: “Bro why are all these old people ass at governing” FIFY
That's definitely not the argument I see centrists making, maybe occasionally. But then again most people are tired of old fuckers in office
Granted, I think there are certain things Dems suck balls at governing in. But that stuff is largely at the local level in progressive cities where Dems easily hold the power.
Local Dem governments tend to be infested with NIMBYs and everything bagel liberalism, which ends up exacerbating the housing crisis and everything that comes along with that. As an example, look at the NIMBY rat nest that is San Francisco politics. Not that Repubs are better locally, either; they also tend to be infested with NIMBYs, on top of all the usual GOP malarkey.
All that to say Dems are almost universally better than GOP at state and federal level, but you really gotta go on a candidate-by-candidate basis amongst Dems at the local level. Many are great, while many others are hot NIMBY garbage.
Right on the money tbh
I mean, the meme isn't centrist. Even if the meme is literally 100% accurate, the reasonable thing would be to be a democrat. I'd take someone who can't govern over someone who is literally evil every time.
Beyond that, the idea of the meme I think is accurate. The Dem do suck, in a lot of ways. They're also, not as bad as the Republicans. So I'll politically support the dems, even if I'm not exactly going to be jumping for joy about doing so.
I don't think its 'centrist' to say that the two party systems is set up to overwhelmingly support the interests of the wealthy, no matter which of the two parties are in power.
You see centrist, I see far-left
Democrats are the centrists
Why is this so accurate…
Ignorance.
Generally accurate. It's amazing how effective our political processes are at putting completely incompetent or corrupt people in power. Anyone who has a level head and good policies has their campaign and character assassinated as early on as possible. This I'd why we can't have nice things.