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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"so much knowledge against it"? We live in a n overwhelming ocean of information, what seems obvious to many people may be completely unheard of in other areas, we're not all getting our information from the same sources. Or some people have become indoctrinated by other groups and have become basically inoculated against "wokeism". Plato's allegory of the cave is just as relevant today as it was in his time (if not more so). There are people spending their whole lives looking at shadow puppets dancing on the wall, thinking that that's reality. Who knows, maybe it's us, but the point is, even though we're awash in information, ignorance is alive and well.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As someone who's had several long debates with a neonazi on discord, it usually boils down to them saying "Goldbloom controls you, all your arguments are therefore nullified"

Their aptitude for dismissing information is amazing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which is why we don't debate them, and avoid giving them a public platform!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

After we had our fun with them we banned them. We still laugh about it to this day

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You'll find a lot of arguments for believing such things if you look for them. Some of these arguments are simply angry rants (and they appeal to angry people who aren't inclined to think analytically) but others are quite sophisticated. Have I refuted all the sophisticated ones I've come across? No, that would take a lot of effort, and maybe some of them are even technically true. I'm not convinced by them primarily because I have certain assumptions about the world: conspiracy theories are generally not true, most people just want to live a good life, kindness is usually reciprocated, and so forth. Someone who holds the opposite set of assumptions (every organization is corrupt, many people are inherently evil, kindness leads to being exploited, etc.) won't be convinced by your "knowledge against it" without even hearing you out in the same way that I'm not convinced by the arguments for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

People just want an easy scapegoat, and there are many parties willing to sell them one.

Knowledge against racism has existed for millennia. Time is a flat circle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Incel = involuntary celibate

You become one by not being able to find a life partner or even a one night stand. Not something I'd really blame the individual for.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

A lot of it comes from experiences they've had.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Humanity has this default setting where tribalism = TRUE, and social media gives you a place where you can form new tribes around anything and everything all of the time. As a matter of fact, it tends to encourage modern day tribalism. Why do you think antivaxxers and flat earth are a thing. In ancient times that sort of behavior was confined to the house of the local village idiot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

For incels there really is no other community for them. Hell, even if you are liberal there are not many mens spaces for you.

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