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[alt text: a screenshot of a tweet by @delaney_nolan, which says, "Biden/Harris saw this polling and decided to keep unconditionally arming Israel". Below the tweet is a screenshot from an article, which states: "In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they'd be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they'd be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely."]

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone here missing the point...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want to build a broad-based coalition that marginalizes these fascists so we never again have to choose between a fascist and a genocide-enabler. But nah, let's just stay in our echo chambers and tear each other to shreds while society crumbles outside.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just want to clarify I was referring to the comments and not your post. I will be right there with you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I know I got that! I was just adding to the sentiment. If anything, I'm getting the sense that more here agree with us than disagree, and I find that heartening.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Got a link to the quoted article, by chance?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't use Xitter so all I can see is the single tweet and it's just an image, no attribution.

Found an article but it doesn't link to the source either.

https://zeteo.com/p/poll-harris-democrats-gaza-ceasefire-arms-embargo

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

There's this for methodology, at the end of the article:

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Having trouble seeing those who (non-)voted for ending democracy, women's rights, and oppression of LGBTQ+ and non-christians as allies. Not enthusiastic about the candidate? I don't care. If they're going to do less harm, they're the only ethical choice. The basic numbers showed that one of two candidates would win. Ignoring that and the suffering that would be caused to vulnerable groups by one candidate for ideological purity is a hard thing to forgive.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then get used to losing elections, I guess. You generally can't change a person's mind unless they already respect you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

And I can't respect those that are willing to selfishly sacrifice others for their own sense of moral purity, rather than pragmatically save as many as possible. Actions and choices speak louder than any philosophical statement and allowing fascism, all-out genocide of the Palestinian and Ukrainian peoples, and oppression of women and LGBTQ+ to win speaks loudly of one's character.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sorry but is there a source for this poll? I’m curious how this data was collected? (And am always skeptical of data cited in a toot without a source).

Edit: Just saw it is said to be YouGov survey from June with a small sample size, although no link is provided.

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