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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Surprisingly unsurprised that the CIA can't and wouldn't bother making their own in-house secure communications platform given they allowed a literal Russian asset to become President.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They do. They don't use it because these tools actually have archiving and transparency tools to allow investigating federal agency. All such discussions must be archived for that reason. They use Signal for the disappearing messages.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So they're criminals? I'm shocked! SHOCKED!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Every person in America is a criminal. I would assume this is true in many countries, but american governments at all levels love rules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

On the surface this sounds right, until you realize that they announced that signal is on their devices by default indicating it's within policy. So they're clearly not using it for some compliance workaround otherwise they wouldn't be announcing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well, developing and maintaining an in-house solution costs money, freeriding Signal's service is in fact free...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The more an authorian governments pushes a software, the less I trust it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They never pushed it for anyone but themselves though. And they're using it themselves to work around archiving and transparency regulations.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah the fact they're personally using it to commit their crimes means they likely haven't cracked it. If they knew it were compromised they'd use something else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Signal is so secure that the CIA uses it...thus some journo couldn't have hacked their way in. It was pure incompetence by Walz and Hegseth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, it’s secure-ish.

But these types of conversations aren’t supposed to happen via texts that will disappear in 7 days.

Presidential records are supposed to be recorded. Journalists are unable to make FOIA requests if no records are kept. Even if a FOIA request would be denied now, the records should still be kept for possible declassification decades from now.

This regime dangerously eschews transparency and has become a dark hole.

It’s like the meme of that guy tapping his forehead: “you can’t request records if there are no records”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Who said otherwise? Even trump admitted it and said walz was trying his best and shouldn't be punished.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I bet they come with Outlook and Edge pre installed too. Does that make it okay to use those for classified communications?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Outlook? Sure, to some degree, with S/MIME encryption.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ha, okay, but you're still not allowed to put the secrets on the non-secret computer, regardless of what kind of encryption, because there's a whole different system for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Good bet, now prove it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What?

The desktop version is the least secure version of Signal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

If you have access to the machine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, signal should be safe to use with its encryption and all. The developers can't do much if the screen is brighter than the user in front of it. Well, it is what it is...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

So then they must also include it on the phones they issue, since its pretty much useless unless linked to a phone.