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With ASCII æs the åriginal sin. Can't even spell my name with that joke of an encoding >:(
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To be fair, American Standard Code for Information Interchange was only meant to display English, which doesn't care about the language your name is from.
It's a "joke" because it comes from an era when memory was at a premium and, for better or worse, the English-speaking world was at the forefront of technology.
The fact that English has an alphabet of length just shy of a power of two probably helped spur on technological advancement that would have otherwise quickly been bogged down in trying to represent all the necessary glyphs and squeeze them into available RAM.
... Or ROM for that matter. In the ROM, you'd need bit patterns or vector lists that describe each and every character and that's necessarily an order of magnitude bigger than what's needed to store a value per glyph. ROM is an order of magnitude cheaper, but those two orders of magnitude basically cancel out and you have a ROM that costs as much to make as the RAM.
And when you look at ASCII's contemporary EBCDIC, you'll realise what a marvel ASCII is by comparison. Things could have been much, much worse.
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Hey, now. Seven bits per character were good enough for Granddad, they should be good enough for you.
Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.
Yes I'm being sarcastic, but I also think utf-8 is plaintext these days. I really can't spell my name in US ASCII. Like the other commenter here went into more detail on, it has its history, but isn't suited for today's international computer users.
On the second day, he gave them css.
Pretty sure that's what he gave as punishment for eating of the forbidden tree.
No, XML is already a punishment.
It's just UTF-8
Android defaults to UTF16
All because of java
TIL I didn't realize Java used UTF16 for its internal representation. Looks like it's a bit more complicated than that after Java 9 too
It's also UTF-8 with BOM. It's also windows western 1252. Dont get me started on international date time formatting and time assumptions :(
I wish it was just UTF-8
It's also some surprise internal representation as utf-16; that's at least still in the realm of Unicode. Would also expect there's utf-32 still floating around somewhere, but I couldn't tell you where.
And is mysql still doing that thing with utf8 as a noob trap and utf8_for_real_we_mean_it_this_time_honest or whatever they called it as normal utf8?
Me too. To this Day our national Electric invoice standard uses ISO-8859-15. An that's just fine until somebody feels the need to have a look with Notepad, add a random space and save the file.
Notepad then helpfully changes the encoding to UTF-16 and the whole patch errors out somewhere down the chain.
You'd think things would be simple, otherwise the existence of UTF-8.
And yet for the last 17 years, every company I've been in has had some sort of horrible mess involving unicode and non-unicode and nobody either recognising the problem, or knowing how to solve it when they did recognise it ("well, the £ turns into a ? so we just replace any ? in the filename by a £").
Text encoding 'standards' were clearly the devil’s work, handed down to humanity to sow chaos and suffering.
In my experience things are fine while you work in a single environment, or you have control over the entire pipeline of data. Things quickly turn into a story from the Bible when different systems start trying to communicate.
Already with a single standard in a single project things have a tendency to start breaking down as soon as there's more than one developer and disagreement arises about what the text in the standard specification actually means.
That's true yeah. The seed of all the problems is assuming.
My teammates assumed System.DefaultEncoding must be some default value (UTF-8, they assumed, again) that would carry across all servers so no worries. Except no, it's "whatever encoding is configured on this machine as the default code page".
Which was the same across our networks, lucky them.
But for this one machine setup by an external contractor who had UTF-8 as default.
That one took me a while to track down...
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Congratulations, you made a indecipherable mess on Voyager.
Boost ,as well.
Works fine on boost for me, in landscape
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡾⠁⠀⠀⠈⡱⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢷⠈⣿⣿⣿⠟⣿⣇⡝⣮⡈⠀⠀⠀⣴⡟⠀⢿⡟⢿⣻⣿⣇⠀⣰⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⡄⠀⠀⠀⢿⡀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⠇⠀⠀⠀⡼⠃⠀⠀⠀⣀⣀⣠⣤⣼⠿⣿⢿⠃⣰⠋⠈⠁⢻⡙⢶⣴⠟⣹⠃⠀⠀⠱⡄⢹⣿⣟⠲⢿⠤⠤⣤⣤⣀⡀⠀⠀⠸⡆⠀⠀⠈⣧⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⡏⠀⠀⠀⣰⣃⣤⠖⠋⣉⡡⢆⣠⠟⠁⣼⣿⡿⢸⣇⠶⠊⠀⢸⣷⠛⠉⢳⣿⠀⠀⠐⢶⠹⡌⣿⡿⣆⠈⠱⢦⡐⠦⣄⣉⣙⣶⣄⣹⡀⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⠀⠀⢰⣶⣿⣿⣿⡿⢿⣥⣶⣟⣁⣠⣞⣽⠟⡇⢸⣿⡀⣀⡴⠋⢹⡄⠀⣸⣉⣻⣦⣄⣸⣰⡇⣿⢹⣮⣷⣤⣤⣿⠿⠞⣛⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠂⠀⠀⢿⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⡟⠀⠀⠀⢹⠋⠳⢿⣿⣷⡶⠦⢭⣽⣾⣿⡟⠰⢷⣘⣿⠁⠿⠋⠉⠙⣿⠉⡿⠉⠉⠉⠏⢩⣿⢠⣟⣐⣿⣿⢷⣾⣷⣒⣩⣿⠿⠟⠉⠀⢱⠀⠀⠀⢸⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⢠⡇⠀⠀⠀⢸⠀⠀⠀⠈⠙⠻⠿⢿⣿⣿⣿⡟⣠⣾⣳⣽⣷⣦⢠⠄⣖⢹⣿⠃⠃⠠⠂⣰⣿⣿⢿⣧⣄⣻⣿⣿⣛⠟⠛⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡄⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀
⠀⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀⠀⠀⢸⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣸⠿⠋⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⡽⣽⣾⣿⣦⣬⠞⠏⠀⢤⣼⣿⣿⣿⢱⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠈⠙⠲⣤⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⡇⢰⣄⣤⣾⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⠶⠋⠁⠀⢀⣾⣿⢿⣿⣾⣇⢹⡏⣻⣿⠞⠀⠀⠀⠰⣿⣏⣸⡇⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠳⢦⣀⠀⠀⢸⢳⣦⡞⢸⡇⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⣷⡼⣯⡽⢿⣆⣤⣞⣋⣀⣀⣀⣀⣀⣸⣿⣿⣧⠬⠹⣯⣬⣿⠉⠹⣄⠀⠀⠀⣰⠏⠉⣿⢤⣿⠟⠲⣾⣿⣻⣧⣤⣤⣤⡤⠤⠤⠽⠿⢦⡼⠛⣷⠛⢿⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⡄⠘⠃⠀⢿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣷⣄⠀⢻⣿⠏⢦⠀⠈⠐⠀⠸⡁⠀⡟⠙⣿⠟⠀⣠⣾⣿⣾⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⡇⠀⠙⢀⡿⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣇⠀⠀⠀⠈⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣿⣿⣷⣄⠿⣄⠈⢿⡆⠀⠀⠀⢴⡿⠀⣠⠟⣠⣾⣿⢿⡽⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡞⠀⠀⠀⣸⠇⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⡆⠀⠀⠀⠘⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣿⣿⢿⣶⡈⢦⢸⡇⠀⢠⠀⢸⡇⠐⢁⣼⣿⢿⣯⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡼⠁⠀⠀⢠⡏⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⡄⠀⠀⠀⠘⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢶⣿⣿⣳⠀⠀⡇⠀⣼⠀⢸⡇⠀⣜⣿⣹⠶⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡼⠁⠀⠀⢀⡿⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⡄⠀⠀⠀⠈⢣⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠙⣯⡃⢸⡇⠀⢹⠂⠈⡇⠀⣿⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⠞⠀⠀⠀⢠⡞⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣽⠷⣼⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⢷⡰⢹⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠔⠁⠀⠀⠀⣠⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢷⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢦⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣴⣿⣦⣀⣠⣀⣤⣿⣧⢾⠆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⠶⠃⠀⠀⠀⢀⡼⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢦⡀⠀⠀⠀⣆⣉⣷⢦⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡜⠿⣷⣿⣿⠿⣽⡿⠛⡞⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣴⢊⣁⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠦⣄⣠⢿⣩⡷⡄⠈⠙⠓⠤⢤⣀⣙⣦⣈⣻⣦⣾⣁⣠⣞⣁⣀⠤⠴⠚⠋⣀⣿⣻⣧⡀⣀⡴⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠑⠦⣟⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠉⢿⡿⠷⣿⢿⡯⠉⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠉⣿⡾⠛⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠓⠶⣄⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⣶⡿⢸⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣠⠴⠞⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
Is this better?
Give it up. :D
In that case it's the app handling code blocks poorly, you're complaining to the wrong person.
Nah, it's just Asciiart is fine in forums or spcialized sharing sites but please stop doing it on social media.
I mean, to people who can see it properly, its a really funny joke, but yeah, its annoying if you can't.
Works fine on my mobile browser.
Good old ASCII art!
Used to love drawing these for BBS's.
Then throw in some ANSI colors... Mmmm! Good times.
Get thee behind me, anything beyond extended ASCII.
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