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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Step 1: A backpedal to their roots, openness and FOSS leaning development. Allow reasonably cheap API access that still gives them some money from the AI trawlers but allows 3rd parties to function, stop blasting me with gigantic notification on my mobile browser to use the terrible official app every time I view a thread (or even literally forcing you off the page period if its 'nsfw' content like elden ring threads, apparently??)

Step 2: Focus on genuine usability. The official app is DOG ASS. The "new" reddit experience is a nightmare compared to old reddit. Videos STILL don't load and run properly, after literally 5 or 6 years. Straight up embarrassing stuff for software developers.

Step 3: Take a genuine stance on moderation and content. Either direction; free-for-all where only the clearly illegal is removed, or tightly moderated with global rules. This current system is a completely broken mess, you'll get the_donald literally breeding terrorists in the open for years, but I can't use call another user an "asshole loser" without getting kicked out of a subreddit? I just dont think the weird federalist style subreddit system works all that well. Global, clear, enforced rules.


If they did these things I think I would return. The real crazy thing is that they could do all of these things and still increase profitability. If the official app was actually good, more people would use it, and the massive amount of calls home and data collection it does would be way more profitable. Jump on the bandwagon, make a reddit LLM chat-bot that is fed only on reddit threads, it would probably be genuinely decent. Or at least make reddit search work, you would siphon off a ton of google search traffic. you know. innovate, at all, even a little. The money would come in. But not AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE I WANT TO SCROOGE MCDUCK THIS SHIT levels, and thats what the ownership and (soon to be) shareholders will push them towards. So none of this will happen, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

If they made their mobile web interface usable, I'd use it on mobile. If they keep their old.reddit interface usable, I'll keep using it to some extent. I don't think either of these will happen.

I also think the vast majority won't care unless the moderation bots will be rendered unaffordable to maintain by volunteer mods.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I am the founder of a mental health support subreddit, so I kinda permanently tied to Reddit to continue to provide support there. I did however make the same community on Lemmy. World, so shall see what the future holds. I will probably have to be active on both

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Bring Aaron Swartz back from the dead and put him in control

/r/Tedwasright in that tech devolves into a tool of abuse. Only thing I can think of it to keep innovating to outrun the machine

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I really think at this point I am done with Reddit. The attitude Spez and the other admins showed in that AMA was disrespectful to users and mods. Reddit is just a platform, they don’t create content, and the mods work for free as far as I know. To give a big FU to users the way they did is all I needed to see. I am going to use Lemmy and continue to use Mastodon for better or worse, but so far, I am liking it more and more over here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I am running PowerDeleteSuite on both my reddit accounts as i type this. My basic edit is that due to reddits api changes i no longer feel welcome, have moved to lemmy, and support the blackout. I will give a few hours to settle and then delete both accounts

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, I've been wanting to find a new forum for a while. Reddit no longer resembles what I joined back in the days.

This was just the kick in booty I needed to get on with it. And a ton of alternatives has been laid out before me, so might as well go check some of them out.

Edit: So there's very little chance of me returning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Allow rif or allow more customization for listview in app. I'm gonna stick around but only on desktop probably. That will be significantly less than my mobile usage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll always have some positive feelings for Reddit because I met my husband there, but the whole mentality here is so refreshing. I realize I mainly lurked on Reddit cause you'd get torn apart on subs for being new or not knowing the lingo or making a mistake cause you didn't frequent it every day. Don't think I'm gonna back pedal from the fresh start.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

It's too late, this is just the culmination of something that started a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For a platform based so heavily around user content, they really seem to hate their users. Even if they went back on the API pricing plan, Reddit is just testing the waters for what changes they can get away with to become more profitable and corporate-friendly, and this is something I feel like they’re gonna continue to do.

Only thing they can do to bring me back is more transparency in what they’re doing, but that’s not gonna happen lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Thats what baffles me about all their decisions its like they know they just watered the potatoes in the server room right? The community did everything else.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Saying this as a current Reddit user so this is less of a "winning me back" list and more of a wishlist. Either way...

-Reverse API decisions, support 3rd party apps
-Make new design less shit
-Decentralizing. Not through blockchains or NFT trinkets but through open sourcing and federating with a network like this one. This was Jack Dorsey's plan for Twitter and this is why he funded the development of Bluesky. The plan was to eventually develop Twitter into a client for Bluesky, but he had to fuck everything up by pushing for Elon to buy it, which is a shame because this would have been the best ending for the platform. Reddit doing the same would be the best ending for it as well, but like I said, this is just a wishlist. Modern Reddit would never support something like this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Honestly the best thing for Lemmy would be if Reddit did completely reverse this decision and retain it's users. Then, Lemmy would remain relatively small and act as a much better internet community. If Reddit loses a large portion of it's users to Lemmy (to be fair, I am one of these people), then eventually Lemmy will become a festering wound as well. I mean, when Reddit was young it felt just like Lemmy does today, and none of us at that time could have ever expected it to end up this way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Nice try, /u/spez…!

But seriously, I guess none of any further actions to try to fix the whole thing would change that bad gut feeling of being held as a fool that I now have. Mostly due to how they treated Christian Selig.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

while i have been liking my time here, i can’t say i’ll never go on reddit again. i’d like for lemmy to become my primary browsing platform, but there simply isn’t my favourite niche communities on here- in particular r/namenerds, r/battlejackets, r/posthardcore, and all the bullet journalling subs. unless those communities migrate, i’ll still go on reddit (yes, mobile) to engage with them, since those are some of my favourite hobbies, even if i’m hoping to spend more time with lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Apologise to Christian for the slander. And that’s just to start.
No point listing the other requirements since the first one will not be met anyway. The most we will get it “I’m sorry Christian felt that way”.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I haven't been a redditor for as long as you guys have, being a teenager and all, but you can see the deterioration. It's strange, losing reddit. Feels like losing a friend but different. But they took the enshittification route, and I'm never going back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

open the source code and become part of the fediverse. reddit is stuck in the past

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Nothing. I deleted my account already. It was a spit in the face of the third party developers. The official Reddit app is trash. They were lucky to have those third party apps. Cash grab because of the incoming recession. Meanwhile you're whole platform is based on user generated content. What a joke.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with most of the other posters, I'm done with reddit. I want the community but I don't want the corporation. It's not that I find admins who run lemmy instances more trustworthy by default, but the decentralized nature make me think it can be more resilient and altogether a better experience.

Boy do I wish we had RIF for lemmy though 😞

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

thats only on the official app now. Such a weird power play for reddit to seize all of the. porn its like a reverse utah

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