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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think reddit is fixable, or actually, the community. The hive mind system fucking sucks, and you can't change that without going 1984

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But won't lemmy develop the same hivemind? Afterall they function the same way

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem with (so called) Reddit protest is their decision won't change. All subreddits should protest UNTIL demands are met. Locking the subreddits on 48h won't do them any harm, but locking for an extended period of time might.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Some, even bigger ones close indefinitely

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Don’t think I’ll ever go back, no matter what they do going forward. The team at Reddit (or at least a good chunk of the “top dogs”) have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted. They are slowly boiling the frog, and if they notice they’ve turned the temperature too high, they’ll lower it, and then try to increase it again, just more slowly than last time. They have been doing this for years, but this was a step too far for me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Probably need to open source at least their core software and algorithm. Allow third party app to exist. It would be best if they turn into non-profit, but I am not against for-profit organization.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I mean, kbin has been better for me in every way. It's been mentioned already, but this whole situation was the push that me and a lot of other users needed to look into alternatives and find something that works better for us than reddit did.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit would basically have to undo a decade of transformation and prove that they've learned to listen to their community. Only after earning my trust with a proven track record of community-driven decisions would I come back.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know if I have an answer for that. My most active reddit was my local city sub (r/stlouis) and I spend a lot of time and got a lot of good information from there. It just really bums me out, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this whole deal works here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Bringing the r/place concept here would be cool, perhaps different instances could all do something similar of their own? Federated r/place sounds fun. :^)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not sure they can do anything - since I discovered federated platforms and started using more FOSS and non-corporate technology in my life, I am really glad to break away from it all.

I'm still on some platforms I'd rather not be (Discord), but the unfortunate truth of social platforms is that you have to be on them to socialise with certain friends/family, and encouraging people to use something different to talk to you is a non-starter for many.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

First and foremost, get third party clients working again. I am used to RiF. I tried the official app. It was very busy but showed much less useful information per screen. I could not even even leave it installed on my phone. It kept spamming (shitty) notifications to try to goose my engagement, even after I disabled them.

Anger about bad corporate decisions fades, but if I cannot comfortably use a site, I cannot come back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I don't see myself going back, at least when it comes to the app. I like the way RIF looks and would want it to stay looking like that, but I don't think Reddit wants that style as they're trying to make it more social media focused. I will likely still use it on the desktop but I don't spend a lot of time on my desktop outside of work and gaming so wouldn't be that often. I'm likely going to delete most of my comments on there soon

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me, I haven't left yet but I will significantly reduce my time on reddit once my app of choice shuts down (Boost). If reddit updates their app to the standard of the 3rd party apps they are killing, I'll be happy to continue my use. Side note, I've found lemmy (jerboa app use) because of this and will hang around here regardless of what happens with reddit

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Not ruin the site with pointless features and keep old reddit/third party apps the way they were.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Not much that wouldn’t also kill them, I think.

Reddit has become too massive for its own good, and it lost its sense of community from the early years. There was a few nice subs, but they usually ended up being popular for exactly this reason, and they ended up being connected to the “big centralized Reddit bubble” (if that makes sense), which killed the community in the process.

My best memories of fun or interesting conversations on Reddit were actually not made on particular subreddits, but more on recurrent stickied threads on some subreddits that only a few regulars opened and read. Those had a real sense of community.

So yeah, Reddit lost me as a user these past few days, but not 100% because of the actual changes that they made - I think I was already dissatisfied with it and that was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. It’s more like a combination of the massive user base and the way the website works that kind of suffocated communities. They cannot really change that, as they would probably not survive changes that are too big or a drastic reduction in the user base.

The Fediverse could suffer from the same issues if it becomes wildly successful of course, but the fact that it is federated adds another layer of separation between community circles, and I think that’s enough for mitigating that problem a little bit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

For me to go back, the CEO would have to be completely open about how they treated Christian and fully explain why they are doing that API pricing. But they won’t so I won’t go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's nothing they can do. Both the firm and the platform are completely infiltrated by intelligence assets.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At this point, me run out of alternatives worth trying. Just signed up for a lemmy instance today, and liking what I'm seeing so far (even if communities are quite a lot smaller than I'm used to at the moment), but there are other sites that might scratch the reddit itch that I'll try even if the fediverse stuff doesn't take off. Reddit has shown that that they're a) greedy, and b) incompetent at being greedy. And I'm not going to contribute to them again until I'm well and truly out of other options.

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