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So I just saw the YouTube video someone posted that showed nuclear reactors starting up, and the first thing I noticed was that they all glowed a very bright, pretty blue. I'm probably an idiot, but I was honestly expecting green, because of many years of dramatized depictions in popular media.

These are probably dumb questions, but:

  1. Why is it blue? As in, what's actually glowing in there, and why do we see it that way?

and

  1. Why do all the movies and comic books and video games go with green instead? Where did that come from?
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some possible factors, from reading similar discussions:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

since 1) and 3) are things that maybe 10 people in the world even know about, it's probably the Simpsons yeah

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

In 2023, yeah, but remember that it isn't in 2023 that the association was made.

Tritium watches used to be a much bigger deal some decades back, as you could actually use the thing in the dark. Subsequent to that, battery-powered digital watches with a light became common, and then a lot of people just moved to using a cell phone to know the time.

As the linked WP article details, uranium glass also used to be more-common prior to the government locking up a lot of supplies of uranium. I've only seen uranium glass in person in museums, and in general, plastic has displaced a lot of glassware today.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The blue hue is called Cherenkov radiation. It happens when a particle moves through a medium early fast, leading to light being released. It’s like a sonic boom but for light.

As for the green glow, maybe it’s due to uranium glass glowing green unused UV light.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Really fast

Well that's the understatement of the week 🙂

When a photon (a light particle) enters a medium, it's speed drops somewhat. Lightspeed-the-universal-constant, however, is unchanged; so at that point it becomes possible for another particle in that medium to go faster than light.

When that happens, you get Cherenkov radiation.

"Really fast" indeed 😁 (i assume you know this, but I found it worthwhile to add a little clarification that it's not formula-1-really-fast)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not really "faster than light", but faster than light in that medium. The phrase "faster than light" normally refers to moving faster than c, which particles ~~with rest mass~~ can't really do according to our current models.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That was my point, but clearly not well formulated - thank you for clarifying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a bit of miscommunication here.

Nothing travels faster than c, or the speed of light within a vacuum.

The speed of light within a medium (like water) is not c. It is less.

When a particle is traveling at c and slams into a medium like water with enough force it will continue traveling faster than light normally would in that medium, and give off that radiation as it does.

But it is not traveling faster than light as you emphasized. It is traveling at nearly c and getting slowed down. It is often referred to a "light based sonic boom" though because that makes sense. But only when you consider the transition from vacuum to a medium or medium to medium.

Protip: anytime someone points out a thing is traveling faster than light they're wrong because really: nothing does ever. It isn't physically possible and the smartest minds on the planet have tried to reason how it might be for nearly a century now, with no progress at all. There are workarounds but they don't involve "travel" in the real sense, more like displacement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm aware, and that was the point I was trying to make - but clearly ineffectively. Thank you for the extra clarifications.