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Data on search engine market share is available, but I wonder what that looks like for Lemmy users in particular, who I would assume lean more technical than the average user, so probably use DuckDuckGo and alternates more than Google.

I use a mix of DuckDuckGo and Kagi. I'll also use ChatGPT, which can be good if you're careful to verify the answers it gives you as a check against hallucinations. It's useful for short, direct answers without ads or SEO bullshit.

This article on Ars (and if you're not a subscriber, you absolutely should be, as they are the best tech journalists out there) inspired the question: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/06/google-admits-reddit-protests-make-it-harder-to-find-helpful-search-results

Fucking Reddit. Enshittification ruins everything.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Kagi on iOS and Mac. DDG w/Google on Android because my preferred Android browser, Vivaldi, doesn't offer Kagi. Anyone know how to default Vivaldi to Kagi?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'll give a search on Duck Duck Go, and if I can't find what I need then I'll use Google.

But at this point I'm using Google Bard and ChatGPT more and more, at least at work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I exclusively use AltaVista.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I use DuckDuckGo, but mostly as a "terminal to the internet". In a few keystrokes i've opened a new tab, navigated to the homepage (https://start.duckduckgo.com/), then used a Bang to do a direct search inside the particular site or thing i need. For many things specially tech questions i do fall back to Google though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I use DuckDuckGo. Including using their browser on iOS and windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thanks for making me aware of Kagi, I've been trialing it and getting decent results is a breath of fresh air in a world of blogspam and LLM garbage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

They're all garbage. Content farms and SEO nonsense has been flooding search engines with useless garbage for years. Either that or pages that simply copy forum threads over and over and over so you get a whole results page of what appears to be different sites, but are all a copy of the same forum thread from 2007. Or they grab your search string and then you have a page that looks like it's exactly what you need, only to find out it's scammy bullshit. But AI is making that whole problem exponentially worse.

I've tried DDG many many times over the years. Sometimes it's ok. But overall, most of the results i get just aren't relevant, and it seems like over the last year or two DDG's results have gotten way worse. I always end up back on Google. As crappy as Google is, the results still end up being more relevant overall.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

i use brave search (even if i'm on firefox), it gives good results while having an independent index

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I've still been using Google but it has gone seriously down hill. After an experience earlier today I think I'm done with them for good. I was trying to check if digital international drivers permit were legit (they're not), and when I googled it, the word "digital" was completely ignored, which was the most important modifier in the query, making the results worthless. I think they're generalizing queries so they're more cachable and cheaper to fulfill, but it's made the experience terrible now, so I'm finally done with them.

I'll probably switch to duck duck go. The bing index didn't ignore the word digital for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I typically use StartPage, sometimes DDG. Occasionally I pop in and check out how Brave Search is progressing, out of curiosity.

I would love to use Searx, but I've never found an instance where functionality wasn't breaking all the time or it just randomly goes offline. As much as I want to be, I've learned that I'm not much of a self-hoster. So, yeah, every time I try Searx, I wind up back at StartPage. If anyone has any solid, reliable instances they know of, I'd love to check them out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Qwant (but I hate all search engines nowadays)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Qwant is the best one i've come across

  • Mainly uses its own index but might also query from Bing with pseudonymous data
  • No sponsored links or sensoring
  • Good image search
  • Integrated maps that uses OpenStreetMap
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A combination of DDG and Google. DDG's results too often look like a list of sponsors so when that happens I fuck right back off to Google.

Get an ad blocker, get Privacy Badger, use a VPN, experience the internet the way it was before corporate shitbags got hold of it. Mostly.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use SearXNG and Ecosia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Searxng, reddit, gmap or OSM for mapping.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Currently DuckDuckGo, but I will switch to SearXNG because of this.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

DuckDuckGo here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I mostly use Startpage and Waterfox as browser. I know system1 was bought by an advertising company which on itself is a bit spooky, but they haven't done anything that would be a concern for my data.

Startpage uses google as a serach engine but anonymizes your search query and u don't see these paid google ads in your searches. pretty neat.

Waterfox is modified Firefox but without the Mozilla shit. I wanted a good balance between usability and privacy and other Firefox based browsers like LibreWolf were just such a drag for everyday use. I can still sync my Mozilla account for bookmarks and stuff which is neat but for other than sync functions and updates Wterfox doesn't phone home

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

DuckDuckGo, and before that, I used ixquick(which is now StartPage).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Google and ChatGPT, I tried DDG several years ago, but the results were not good, might try it again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Google. As much as I'd like to use other search engines, their search results are all severely lacking and not adequate for my needs (often pertaining to research) and they're generally not as great on the multilingual front or in searching pdfs.

I also have some keywords set up in my browser so I can directly search sites I use (e.g. Wikipedia).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

SearXNG, searches every search engine and regroups them in a single list, alongside the very powerful "bang" variant they use ("!!" is like "!" for ddg, and "!" is to only search with this search engine, ":en" is to choose a specific shortcode language.)

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