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Wow, they (apparently) finally made the REPL not suck! I always thought it was weird how shit it was given that it's one of the big reasons Python has become as popular as it is.
Maybe in another 20 years they can make the package tooling not suck too.
poetryhas made the package tooling generally not suck for me, anduvseems to be getting better. Just a few more PEPs to go untiluvdoes what I want. Here's hoping.Poetry is frigging great.
Never heard of uv.
uvis basically a super fast Python tool, written in Rust. Looks promising, but it seems to be missing some features I really like from Poetry, but I'm keeping my eye on it.Tbf,
uvis trying to solve packaging nowYeah it's definitely a vast improvement on previous attempts (Poetry et al).
I dunno if it can be called solved until it's officially sanctioned and installed by default though, and I don't see that happening for a very long time.
How is it better than poetry?
It actually works. I tried poetry once and it failed to resolve some simple dependency specification.
Ok you can say it was a fluke bug but it didn't inspire confidence.
uvis also freakishly fast. My venv setup times went from 57 seconds to 7 seconds. I seriously doubt Poetry can do that because it's written in Python.I abandoned poetry after it was unable to install a specific version of pytorch I was using.
In pip I would do something like
pip3 install torch torchvision torchaudio --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu118, but IIRC poetry didn't support the--index-urloption.The Python REPL was always sort of minimal when used from the command line, but is quite usable in an Emacs window. IDLE is also useful some of the time. I never felt the need for anything like Eclipse because of it.
Maybe because people who needed it knew there were better ways to do it, like ipython and Jupyter. Iβve never heard of anyone gushing about the stock REPL.