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I will also leave whatsapp. It's true that I hardly use it. In my case I use Telegram. Why to Signal? Telegram is much more widespread than Signal. I understand that Telegram is not 100% secure, but neither is Signal when you need a phone number. That is the first rule.
before answering, i'd like to preface that i personally don't take in consideration the number of users when analyzing the value of a tool, as 100% of my friends can reach me via sms.
i'm not going into the technical details of why signal is more secure than anything else in our age (i invite you to make your own way into their blog https://signal.org/blog) the striking thing about people working on signal is their intention; the tool is completely open-source, the foundation is a non-profit based on donations. we're seeing what happens when durov's money starts to run out: how long will his ads strategy last, before he needs to invent another trick to keep the boat afloat?
The problem with Signal is that its from the United States, which means the have to follow the orders of CIA and other agencies. Telegram doesn't have that problem.
that's a good point. how could one improve that? might someone offer a location for the signal team to move in another country?
I doubt that's going to happen. In the medium and long term, I think that Matrix will be the best solution, but its gonna take more time for it to be fully usable. So for now we have to make compromises.
To that point I'm not sure why Threema or Telegram aren't being considered more seriously as they don't fall in US jurisdiction.
Because the apps of Threema and Telegram are tied to their own services and are unforkable while apps/clients that use XMPP can use federated-like services.
What about delta.chat?
Just out of curiosity, what makes matrix not fully usable at this time?
The mobile app seems more focused on group chats than something like whatsapp or telegram, which makes it a bit more complicated to use. Also, sometimes I still get decryption errors so certain messages are unreadable.
Session, Status and maybe Spixi are good alternative but they are all too young in my opinion. Session is the best concept, though.