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[September 2024] JD Vance says US could drop support for NATO if Europe tries to regulate Elon Musk’s platforms (www.independent.co.uk)

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JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 3 months ago (26 children)

Not even in office yet, and already making threats.

I’d like to see Europe tell Vance to fuck off. I suspect that if Europe gives in now, the Trump administration will make this same threat every time Europe does something he doesn’t like.

Trump will be an unreliable NATO ally anyway, so it isn’t much of a risk on Europe’s part.

[+] [email protected] -52 points 3 months ago (6 children)

EU countries could start by carryng their weight in NATO.

Ukraine war exposed EU as incoherent imbeciles unable to maintain a proper security posture, esp Germany and their Nazis nepo baby regime... Straight 🤡

Vance behavior is out of line but you need to check that bravado that is not support by anything.

Pay for your own defense and help Ukraine properly... This is your fucking war that was caused by German being a Putin's bitch. Industrial economy relying on a geopolitical adversery for energy while 40k American protect it from Russia for free. Classic parasite behavior.

Mutti merkal so good 🤡

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The EU has by now significantly outpaid the US, and out-supported the US in Ukraine. However, for historical reasons, it lacks certain items which Ukrainians badly need (tactical ballistic missiles and anti-missile defense, to bring good examples).

On the matter of aircraft, I should especially emphasize that EU countries have given fighter aircraft, but the US has not. The US is currently attempting to get through the bureaucracy of approving a Swedish AWACS aircraft (with some US components) going to Ukraine.

Educate thyself here, military people use this resource and approve of it:

https://protectukrainenow.org/en/report

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