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is Matrix/Riot.im really private? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I haven't hosted my own matrix server yet. is it safe to join an instance? I don't really know how private that would be. the question is when I signup/login would I be giving out my IP? is the metadata private? sorry for asking this, I'm just a bit paranoid

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (27 children)

Matrix has the problem that room state (containing a lot of Metadata) gets replicated and stored indefinitely on every homeserver any user connects with or connects to. This is a feature(tm) for enabling distributed chat rooms, but comes at a serious privacy cost.

As most of the matrix network centers around the UK based official servers, you can be pretty sure your metadata will end up on those servers one way or the other and the privacy protection in the UK is very weak. Furthermore, most Matrix homeservers by default use the centralized identity service also hosted in the UK on the official servers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (26 children)

then my only choice is to just host my own servers. most of the time I talk to people 1-on-1 so it works for me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 years ago (2 children)

So why not Jami? (https://jami.net/)

It's P2P so no servers and it's a GNU project.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I tried this a few times, but for me it never worked reliably. Are you using it as a day-to-day kind of thing? Family and friends?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago

yeah, I think It's best on a zombie apocalypse, or a mass surveillance one. since messages can only be sent when both peers are online

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago

I never tried it, but heard from well-known people that it has the highest opsec.

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