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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

With respect, this shows an ignorance of the historical role of journalism in democracy.

to cite sources

Sources may have valuable information to get out, but not be willing to go on the record. Professional journalists are like doctors in that they've committed themselves to a code of ethics. As citizens we are called on to trust them to not make sh*t up.

For publicly available written sources, it's only a bit different. Yes, they could cite every sentence they write, and indeed some do, but it still comes down to institutional trust. If you don't trust where you're getting your news from, this is a problem that's probably not gonna get fixed with citations.

make them liable if it turns out to be false

A terrible no-good idea. Legislating for truth is a slippery slope that ends in authoritarian dystopia. The kind of law you are advocating exists in a ton of countries ("spreading dangerous falsehoods", abuse of defamation laws when the subject involves an individual, etc). You would not want to live in any of these places.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

[…] As citizens we are called on to trust them to not make sh*t up. […]

Imo, that's an appeal to authority.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it is. It's literally how a complex society works. Do you advocate trusting nobody about anything and somehow doing all the research yourself? Would you dismiss your doctor for their "appeal to authority" when they open a medical textbook? This is silly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

[…] Would you dismiss your doctor for their “appeal to authority” when they open a medical textbook? […]

Trusting the doctor's word simply because they are a doctor would be an appeal to authority; whereas, referencing a medical textbook would be citing a source, and therefore not conjecture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

[…] Do you advocate trusting nobody about anything and somehow doing all the research yourself? […]

It's more that I think reputation increases the probability that a claim is accurate, but it isn't proof of accuracy. That being said, even if an entity is trustworthy, I think they still have a responsibility to maintain that trust by being transparent in the claims that they make — I think they shouldn't ride on the coattails of current public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

[…] If you don’t trust where you’re getting your news from, this is a problem that’s probably not gonna get fixed with citations.

Why not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

make them liable if it turns out to be false

A terrible no-good idea. Legislating for truth is a slippery slope that ends in authoritarian dystopia. The kind of law you are advocating exists in a ton of countries (“spreading dangerous falsehoods”, abuse of defamation laws when the subject involves an individual, etc). You would not want to live in any of these places.

Do you agree with the existence of defamation laws?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course. Hence the word "abuse".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

In your opinion, what exactly would qualify as abuse of defamation laws? Could you provide an example for clarity?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doctors can actually face real consequences if they break their code of ethics, "journalists" get promoted for it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're doing exactly what you criticize others for doing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago