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There is no hope for saving the Dems. They will embrace the Bushes and now Trump before ever caring about progressive voices.
There literally is...
The chair election is a few weeks away, and there's lots of good candidates.
If they fuck it up on 2/3 I'll be right here talking shit, but now is the worst time in over a decade to act like there's no chance.
It's been the worst time for probably over a decade if not longer, and they're still not getting it. I mean not much else to do than hope this will finally be a turning point, but if they'd rather cozy up to Trump and Israel than their own progressive wing..
It sounds like you haven't heard anything about the candidates for chair then.
Or they just know the DNC.
I mean those candidates will only matter if they win.
I just watched an interview where a senior dem was asked if they learned their lesson from this massive loss. He sidestepped and squirmed around. I have no confidence that they’ll stop moving to the right.
Good thing he's unlikely to be a voting member of the DNC...
The list was leaked last week if you want to check.
Regardless of whether you agree with any specific policy position they hold, working with Republicans in this next legislative session is the only way Democrats will be able to influence federal policy. The alternative is bill after bill with only Republican input. I have no problem with the Democrats having input on legislation.
And what input do you think they will have that the Republicans would agree with? Maybe a rider to give Israel a few more billion? Shoot some people at the border? Bail out a multinational?
Where do you see this bipartisanship leading? Because it won’t be to anything leftist or progressive.
Collaboration with fascists is a bad thing.
I see lots of money changing hands. Think about it, all the hidden and semi legal scams can now be done in the open.
Democrats should be thanking their gop colleagues more
The alternative is killing bill after bill in the Senate. You know, opposition. Also known as "the thing Republicans do when they are the minority party."
They go center when the voters go right.
A protest non-vote doesn't move policy.
People who always vote for a Republicans or Democrats eventually get what they want. Blaming either of the parties for following the will of those who actual vote is childish.
Hating the democrats will not get you more progressive policy, no mater how much youthful exuberance you have.
Hopefully one day, you'll realize it's not your ball so you can't take home with you. You can only play the game that everyone else is playing or sit on the sidelines and fantasize.
I say fuck them and fuck their ball. The whole shit is about to burn down.
Doubt.
Every generation thinks they're going to change the dynamic and it never happens because the system is rigged.