this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2021
19 points (95.2% liked)
Privacy
34179 readers
1009 users here now
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don't promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
Related communities
much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I am in the middle of doing pretty much the same. Even though it takes some time, I can say it is definitely a good decision. The most difficult appears to be leaving or changing accounts connected to Gmail. Slowly but surly it is coming through though. Overall an interesting process, I must say. And healthy of course without a doubt.
ah, good to hear from a like minded individual. For so many years I trusted google, but the political situation over the last 5 years has really opened my eyes to what google, and its tech peers have become. Its soo bad
As someone who has already looked at all 14 options with regards to private, secure, and inexpensive email in a privacy friendly jurisdiction; I can try to save you some time and say you should probably look at Mailbox.org or Tutanota.com for a Gmail replacement.
I am using Tutanota for now, but I have never heard about Mailbox.org. I need to take a look on that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Mailbox.org has more features because they use an open source groupware called Open-Xchange. But TutaNota is built around privacy. I subscribe to both but I use Mailbox for work/calendar stuff more and Tuta for subscriptions and family.
I've been using posteo.de. Just curious if you had looked at them and had any thoughts. I also have a Tutanota account, but I currently like posteo.
I was using posteo but I have personal disagreements with it. 1) They use Roundcube for their webmail software. Roundcube is developed by crowdfund thieves. In 2015 they raised $120k USD from crowdfunders and then subsequently kept the money, and to this day haven't debriefed funders with what they did with the money. They also shutdown any discussion on the topic on their github. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RoundCube-Next-2018 Point being, I asked Posteo about this and they told me they had no comment. It just seems unethical to use that software. On top of that Roundcube doesn't hold calendar invites properly compared to TutaNota or Mailbox.org 2) Posteo actually outsources a lot of their email server maintenance to Heinlen, which is the company that runs Mailbox.org - I feel that if something goes wrong, mailbox.org would be up first.
Those are my only reasons why I don't use Posteo actually, I don't want to support Roundcube developers and I felt like their outsourcing to Mailbox made Mailbox a better choice. I never had problems with the Posteo service and it's inexpensive. If you don't care about the roundcube issue it's a fine choice.
Thank you, that's very informative. I'll have to look into the things you've brought up.
Though I will say exploring the pro's and con's of each email provider and finding out the shell ownership of some of them (like Startmail, which is owned by a US-based data mining company,) is quite fun.