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Hi so my printer was fine until oneday a print finished with some under extrusion, when I check it seems to extruded in little beads (which combine into blobs as seen in the photo) during prints but not when told to extrude through octo print. Brand new filiment so humidity isn't an issue, I've tried leveling the bed (glass with bltouch), using glue stick, cleaning the nozzle, I cleaned the hot end, sniped down the bowing tube and made sure it was flush with the nozzle. I'm at my whits end and am about to start praying to the omnisiere for divine intervention. Any help would be appreciated.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So to start with, you mentioned the underextrusion on a previous print. Seems like a good starting point, when was the last time you checked your E-steps? Basically you want to disconnect the bowden tube from the hotend, extrude out a short amount of filament and mark its position, then extrude 100mm of filament and measure how much actually came out. From there, there is a formula to adjust the E-steps on the printer. Ideally you should have exactly 100mm come out but there's a good chance you're going to have less than this. You can also make some adjustment to this from your slicer (in the material flow section) but that can cause various other problems, so ultimately you'll want to get this value corrected in the printer itself.

While the bowden tube is disconnected, this is a good time to try doing a cold-pull. Heat the hotend up to around 200C again, stick some scrap filament into it so it just starts to push filament out the bottom, then let the hotend cool back down to near 160C (or maybe even cooler, but this is a good start). Pull the blob of filament out of the hotend, and you should have a bullet-shaped plug on the end of it. Look this over to see if there is any burnt filament, contaminants, or anything else that looks weird. If you see obvious contaminants then this is likely causing your underextrusion. After doing this, you should also check the nozzle itself, sometimes as they wear out a bit of the brass gets pushed over and blocks the flow. Always keep spare nozzles on hand, they wear out faster than anything else.

And one more thing before reassembling... Check the extruder itself. After some time it is common for the brass gear to get clogged up with filament or simply have the teeth wear down, especially from some of the fancy filaments like wood, glow-in-the-dark, or even the metallics. However the results of these problems should be fairly obvious from a clicking in the extruder while printing. Clean out any obvious filament remains, or you can get a pack of replacement gears pretty cheap.

When you are ready to reassemble the bowden tubing, check the fittings at both ends. These wear out easily, so you may see signs that the tubing have been shifting back and forth. These really need to prevent any movement in the bowden tubing, so if you're going to order parts anyway, get a pack of these to hand on hand. Bad fittings can cause serious underextrusion any place the extruder reverses directions like at the end of a wall. but the wall itself should lay down fairly cleanly.

Hope that gives you some ideas to run with. Some of this will depend on the specific model of Ender you have, but if it was working fine and just suddenly started having problems then something blocking the filament flow is at the top of the list of possibilities.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If prints were fine before the incident I would probably leave e-steps alone.

Agree 100% with the steps you outlined. To add on:

  • when OP tells the printer to extrude during octoprint, what does the extruder do? Is the motor grinding (not enough tension) or clicking (indicative of a clog)?
  • any new noises when printing?
  • when OP pulls the filament out of the hot end, is there evidence of the gears grinding on the filament?
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

May be a good time to see if there bits of filament in the extruder gears and if they’re ok. And, if they are, to clean the nozzle either by using filament or a cold pull.

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