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Na, this shit annoys me so much..
Tankies AREN'T communists.
The core of communism is having a stateless, classless, moneyless society.
None of them want that, nor did any of the states they support achieve it.
What they are is authoritarian bootlickers (which by definition is a concept that cannot coexist with communism) LARPING as communists to try and gain support and with it power for themselves and their authoritarian ways.
Tankies love to whine about how calling them that gives communism a bad name, but it isn't us calling them what they are which does that, it's their insistence of co-opting and hiding behind communism in the same way Xi does, and in the same way Hitler did with socialism (and even in the same way western nations co-opt the idea of democracy, or worse socialised democracy, to hide the fact that they are oligarchies) that is what gives communism its bad name (along with McCarthyism of course, but at least they're not trying to claim they are the thing they behave antithetically to)
amen. Socialism by definition requires the workers to own the means of production, and yet all the states they support again and again suppress unions and democracy. Rather tired of being associated with them just because people are confused about most political terms
They got the idea that unions don't exist under communism, but they glossed over the fact that that is because you don't need workers to form a block against capital when there is no capital.
The soviet union had unions or just the one involuntary one if I remember correctly, but since it was essentially controlled by the state it wasn't all that powerful. Cuba today does the same thing.
Should be noted that the soviet union was neither fascist nor communist. Fascism is a form of capitalism, and while many "communist states" (such as china) are capitalist, the SU had a planned economy.
I had one tankie try to convince me that since there was some limited workplace democracy in the SU this meant that workplaces were democratic, but if that is all that is required then I'm happy to announce that plenty of liberal democracies today are socialist.
Edit: oh woops the fascism vs planned economy thing was intended for another comment
The Soviet Union, rather than being just a planned economy, was an empire. It was a Russian empire that used Marxism as a front for its imperialist actions.
It certainly did a bunch of imperialism, yeah
It's more than something they did; it's central to understanding how their economy functioned. With no imperialism, their controlled markets wouldn't succeed. The exertion of state violence on member states for the benefit of Russians wasn't a bug or inefficiency, but a feature.