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DeepSeek is an AI assistant which appears to have fared very well in tests against some more established AI models developed in the US, causing alarm in some areas over not just how advanced it is, but how quickly and cost effectively it was produced.

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Individual companies from within the American stock markets have been even harder-hit by sell-offs in pre-market trading, with Microsoft down more than six per cent, Amazon more than five per cent lower and Nvidia down more than 12 per cent.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Serious question -

From either a business or government/geopolitical standpoint, what is the benefit of them making it open source?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Knocking 1 trillion dollars out of a global rivals stock market for one.

For two, making huge, huge headlines that drive huge, huge investment for your future, locked up models. That's why facebook released llama.

I think the first is a bonus, and the later is the reason. Deepseeks parent company is some crypto related thing which was stockpiling GPUs and opted to pivot to AI in 2023. Seems to have paid off now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ollama isn't made by facebook, the llama models are. Ollama is juste a cli wrapper arround llama.cpp, both of which are FOSS projects.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Good catch. I did mean llama. Ill edit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I believe it is an investment or trading company that dabbled I know crypto at one point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They're outsourcing development of their platform onto independents who will work for free to advance the project, which then improves the value of their platform. It's the same design philosophy behind the Android Open Source Project.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It depends on what type of licensing. One way it could be beneficial to them (and this is me purely speculating with no checking) is that any work done from outside of their company on their code base is basically free labor. Yeah, they'll lose some potential revenue from people running their own instances of the code, but most people will use their app.