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When do we tell them?
i hate this joke.
yes, trial and error is part of the process, but that does not mean we are bumbling fools that don't know how or why things work. trial and error is part of any complex endeavour or learning new things.
when i started programming i struggled with getting stuff to compile, because i didn't know the language i was using well, i later struggled with getting my code to work on other machines because i didn't understood how to package it.
we absolutely get more competent, but we use complex tools to do complex stuff and we seldom have to produce the exact same thing twice, so of course we often find ourselves in somewhat uncharted territory.
that this does not make us fools is exactly what i wrote.
i am just tired of that "joke" that developers don't understand their own work. its neither funny nor does it help anyone.
Chill, hatred is too strong for this. Jokes are rooted in reality but that doesn’t mean that they describe the full reality.
I’ve been programming and tinkering with computing systems for a long time. Every time I start a new project with some new tech, I end up with 1000 tabs open in various mixtures of docs, AI, stackoverflow, reddit; and discord, slack; etc. hunting for answers or resolutions to similar situation to some particular nuanced problem I’m experiencing. It doesn’t mean that I’m an idiot just that I’m trying to do something that I haven’t done before.
It’s taken me many cycles to break myself out of the samsara loops of “I don’t know how to do this so I suck.” Imposter Syndrome is real but eventually we work through it to a healthy perspective of “I don’t know how to do this… yet, but I’m going to have to struggle through it to earn this knowledge.”
sshhhh let the kid develop a bit of impostor syndrome first
Sounds like you're just still in the same boat as op.
That’s a rather disrespectful thing to say. But I’ll play and assume you weren’t trying to be a jerk.
I disagree. It’s a natural part of the cycle of learning new things, and when is software development not about learning new things?